16:00:21 <mizmo> #startmeeting 16:00:21 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Apr 7 16:00:21 2015 UTC. The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:00:21 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:00:35 <gnokii> .fas gnokii 16:00:35 <zodbot> gnokii: gnokii 'Sirko Kemter' <buergermeister@karl-tux-stadt.de> 16:00:40 <mizmo> .fas duffy 16:00:41 <zodbot> mizmo: mikeduffy 'xiaofeng.wu' <mikeduffy@qq.com> - duffy 'Máirín Duffy' <fedora@linuxgrrl.com> - owenduffy 'Owen Duffy' <owen@owenduffy.net> - cduffy 'Charles Duffy' <charles_duffy@dell.com> - dduffy 'David Duffy' <duffy.david@gmail.com> - pduffy 'Pat Duffy' <Pduffy117@gmail.com> - dufflebag 'Martin Duffy' <duffym@gmail.com> - kdpkd 'kev duffy' <kevduf@gmail.com> - thequbit 'Tim Duffy' <thequbit@gmail.com> 16:00:46 <mizmo> whoops 16:01:01 <gnokii> take mynameis 16:01:02 <mizmo> i want you guys to meet bronwynmowens - she is my new intern, she'll be with us for the next 5-6 weeks 16:01:17 <mizmo> she is going to be helping us out with some of our tickets and design work 16:01:35 <mizmo> she is going to be going to school for fashion design so she is going to do more visual design tasks than ux 16:01:39 <bronwynmowens> Hi! 16:01:52 <M1C4HTRON13> hi 16:01:53 <threebean> hi :) 16:02:06 <mizmo> welcome bronwynmowens :) 16:02:17 <bronwynmowens> thank you! Im very excited to listen in 16:02:23 <mizmo> should we jump into the tickets or does anybody have any pressing issues to bring up / discuss? 16:03:01 <gnokii> cool 16:03:02 <mizmo> okay let's just jump to the tickets 16:03:14 <mizmo> #topic stalled tickets - waiting on reporter >= 4 weeks 16:03:21 <mizmo> we only have one stalled ticket this week - https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/report/13 16:03:22 <gnokii> just readiness meeting and flock 16:03:32 <mizmo> okay we'll hit those up at the end 16:03:38 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/345 16:03:41 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/345" 16:03:44 <mizmo> Request for Logo to represent and promote Fedora in Singapore 16:04:13 <mizmo> okay so the reporter actually came back and i didn't notice, so i will be working on this ticket today to finish it up 16:04:36 <mizmo> let's move on to aging tickets 16:04:45 <mizmo> #topic aging tickets (tickets unmodified for 2 or more weeks) 16:04:49 <mizmo> we've got 6 here: 16:05:01 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119 Request for new system-config-services icon 16:05:01 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/119 Request for new system-config-services icon" 16:05:19 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, looks like 119 is yours, any updates? 16:05:58 <finalzone_laptop> mizmo, started early version but it is not ready yet 16:06:14 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, can you post the progress so the reporter can see it? 16:06:26 <mizmo> or even just post an update? 16:07:01 <finalzone_laptop> in a moment 16:07:05 <mizmo> finalzone_laptop, great thanks! 16:07:07 <mizmo> sadin, around? 16:07:15 <mizmo> next ticket is https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199 16:07:19 <mizmo> Interface and Usability refresh for ask.fedoraproject.org 16:07:32 <mizmo> sadin, was hoping to get a status update from you on this this? 16:07:46 <gnokii> thought thats a gsoc project? 16:08:13 <mizmo> i think it was proposed as one, but gsoc hasn't started yet 16:08:24 <mizmo> if the project is on hold until gsoc we should probably update the ticket with that info, no? 16:08:34 <gnokii> yes we should 16:08:42 <mizmo> okay i will send those guys an email and ask them to do that 16:09:44 <mizmo> okay email sent 16:09:54 <mizmo> next ticket 16:09:56 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210 16:09:58 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210" 16:10:00 <mizmo> Update fedoracommunity maps with Russia in EMEA (not APAC) 16:10:22 <mizmo> i think it's midnight or 1 am for ryanlerch so he is likely not here 16:10:25 <mizmo> i can email him for an udpate 16:10:35 <gnokii> is he back in oz? 16:10:42 <mizmo> he is! got back last week 16:11:03 <mizmo> we could maybe consider switching the meeting time so he could make it 16:11:07 <mizmo> but im not sure how easy that will be 16:11:47 <mizmo> okay email sent 16:11:56 <mizmo> next one 16:11:57 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/218 16:11:57 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/218" 16:12:02 <mizmo> Europe edition of Freemedia envelope 16:12:37 <mizmo> i'll email twohot again and see what the status is 16:12:53 <gnokii> ok I will ask twohot on me he answers fast 16:13:04 <mizmo> okie doke 16:13:17 <mizmo> next one 16:13:19 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279 16:13:20 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279" 16:13:23 <mizmo> Design for "This week in Fedora" 16:13:31 * finalzone_laptop notes ticket #119 updated 16:13:42 <mizmo> looks like a sadin ticket, will email him for update 16:14:41 <mizmo> email sent 16:14:46 <mizmo> okay one more 16:14:51 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:14:51 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347" 16:14:58 <mizmo> Fedora Cloud, Server, and Worksation Stack Exchange community promotion ads 16:15:09 <mizmo> this one is open! 16:15:15 <mizmo> bronwynmowens, do you want to try this one? 16:15:49 <bronwynmowens> yes sounds greta 16:15:54 <gnokii> ! 16:15:54 <bronwynmowens> *great, sorry 16:16:01 <mizmo> cool i'll put you on it as the assignment 16:16:05 <mizmo> er assignee 16:16:11 <mizmo> whats up gnokii 16:16:28 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 16:16:31 <gnokii> we should define guidelines before we give it to such pages 16:16:49 <mizmo> for server / workstation / cloud logos? 16:16:53 <gnokii> yes 16:17:14 <mizmo> well i can work with bronwyn on using them correctly and we can extrapolate guidelines from that 16:17:23 <mizmo> and add them to the wiki guidelines page 16:17:34 <mizmo> is there a ticket for guidelines for them? 16:17:38 <mizmo> we should probably make one if not 16:17:39 <gnokii> thats what I thought extending the wiki page 16:17:51 <gnokii> no ticket for it 16:17:58 <mizmo> okay ill make one now and assign it to me 16:18:31 <gnokii> point is through the font problem in inkscape we have already stuff with other font e stickers and they go like hell 16:18:44 <mizmo> yeh :( 16:18:50 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.new -- duffy opened a new ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366 16:19:04 <mizmo> well part of that too is ppl using the SVGs instead of asking for PDFs or consulting with us :-/ 16:19:14 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366 16:19:19 <finalzone_laptop> gnokii, even with 0.91 version of inkscape? 16:19:52 <gnokii> finalzone_laptop: yes there was one in 0.91 16:20:00 <mizmo> wait theres a font bug? 16:20:05 <gnokii> was 16:20:37 <gnokii> it happened also on badges it says its another font as it really is 16:21:06 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- sarupbanskota updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199 16:21:13 <mizmo> thats weird 16:21:21 <mizmo> ive seen weird things happen sometimes when text is grouped 16:21:40 <mizmo> oh sarup already updated 199 (ask.fpo) - fabulous 16:22:09 <mizmo> okay we have some more ticket cateogries to go thru it looks like 16:22:17 <mizmo> #topic untriaged tickets 16:22:29 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363 spins.fpo and labs.fpo websites - need mockups 16:22:31 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363 spins.fpo and labs.fpo websites - need mockups" 16:22:38 <mizmo> i've been working with robyduck on this one, i should post an update 16:23:41 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363 16:23:44 <mizmo> okay i updated it 16:23:58 <mizmo> if u guys are curious tehse are the mocks https://github.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins 16:24:06 <mizmo> eg https://raw.githubusercontent.com/fedoradesign/fedora-spins/master/desktops/mockupv1.1.png 16:24:22 <mizmo> we're splitting spins into two sites - one for the desktop spins, and one for the functional spins (design suite, electronics lab, games, etc) 16:24:52 <mizmo> okay enxt one 16:25:08 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/363 16:25:10 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362 logo for pagure 16:25:13 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362 logo for pagure" 16:25:33 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, looks like you've been making some awesome progesrs on this one, it's just missing the triaged keyword so i will add that for you 16:26:01 <mizmo> next one 16:26:01 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362 16:26:06 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 update design team wiki 16:26:06 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 update design team wiki" 16:26:12 <gnokii> jurankdnkals are nice 16:26:13 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, whats the appropriate stage to mark a ticket as "triaged"? 16:26:29 <mizmo> M1C4HTRON13, traiged means you spoke to the reporter and have all the information you need to work on the ticket 16:26:48 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, ok thanks for clarifying 16:26:51 <mizmo> it doesn't mean the ticket is done or anything, just that it makes sense and theres no confusion about what needs to be done 16:26:52 <mizmo> sure :) 16:28:01 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 16:28:09 <mizmo> Emichan, ^^ do you thikn the draft is good enough to copy oveR? 16:28:10 <mizmo> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_%28draft%29 16:28:44 * Emichan looks 16:29:26 <mizmo> i think the only thing we need is maybe the meeting time 16:29:35 <mizmo> and link to ticket system? 16:29:48 <Emichan> mizmo, there's still a lot of stuff we don't have in there: portfolio and join information being the two big things 16:29:52 <mizmo> yeh 16:29:54 <mizmo> okay 16:29:57 <mizmo> so it needs more work 16:30:03 <mizmo> i'll leave it open 16:30:10 <mizmo> i dont have time to take it on now 16:30:22 <mizmo> this next one is a new ticket 16:30:29 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365 Guitar Pick artwork and printing for swag 16:30:34 <mizmo> looks like a tight deadline 16:30:35 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365 Guitar Pick artwork and printing for swag" 16:31:39 <gnokii> yeah but fast to make 16:31:43 <mizmo> gnokii, looks like he wants halftones for the logo light blue o_O seems kind of rough 16:31:51 <mizmo> can inkscape do halftones? i don't think easily? 16:32:17 <M1C4HTRON13> mizmo, its not difficult just memory intensive 16:32:18 <gnokii> yes 16:32:46 <gnokii> mizmo: make the pic and then youcan use tiled clones 16:33:03 <mizmo> would that make sense to do? or a pattern? 16:33:11 <mizmo> that seems like a hacky way to do it tho 16:33:57 <mizmo> i dont think its going to look right even with halftones 16:34:14 <gnokii> well thats ok what I am more concerned about is, canwe ask fr the ticketon famna trac? 16:34:18 <mizmo> does anybody have time / desire to play with this one and see if the logo can be haltones? 16:34:18 <mizmo> yeh 16:34:24 <mizmo> its a waste of time for us if famna said no 16:34:45 <mizmo> jsandys isnt online right now 16:35:09 <mizmo> no info on the famna ticket to indicate if he got the budget or not 16:35:27 <mizmo> well 16:35:36 <mizmo> i might play around and see if i can get the logo to halftone, i have a feeling it won't work 16:35:38 <mizmo> but its worth a shot 16:35:39 <gnokii> in generally we should enforce that they note that ticket in the ticket 16:35:48 <mizmo> he did note the ticket there 16:35:57 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365#comment:1 16:35:58 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- duffy linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/365#comment:1" 16:36:00 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/100#comment:8 16:36:14 <gnokii> ohyes in comment 16:36:14 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366 16:36:37 <mizmo> i think that's all the tickets we had to review for today 16:36:56 <mizmo> so we have two other topics - the readiness meeting and flock 16:37:03 <mizmo> does anybody have any work they'd like feedback / critique on? 16:38:14 <gnokii> mizmo: http://karl-tux-stadt.de/ktuxs/?p=1460 halftone tut 16:38:28 <mizmo> ohhhh sweet 16:38:38 <mizmo> its in german tho lol 16:38:50 <mizmo> are they working on a translation of your book yet to english? :) 16:39:18 <gnokii> nope its sold out Iwriting new version 16:39:29 <mizmo> gnokii, im looking in my email i dont see anything about a readiness meeting, did i miss it? 16:39:48 <gnokii> mizmo: it cameover list an hour ago 16:39:56 <gnokii> on thursday 16:40:04 <mizmo> huh 16:40:33 <mizmo> thats weird never came to my inbox 16:40:36 <gnokii> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2015-April/007133.html 16:40:36 <mizmo> well i am glad yo ubrought it up 16:40:36 <fedmsg-design> meetbot.meeting.item.link -- gnokii linked to more information in a meeting in #fedora-design: "https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2015-April/007133.html" 16:41:00 <mizmo> i usually go to these, but if anybody else wants to go in my stead so you can get the badge, let me know 16:41:11 <mizmo> i think we are in good shape for beta, right? 16:41:16 <gnokii> question is just you or me so far I see we are fine 16:41:30 <mizmo> you can just go, gnokii and make sure you get your badge :) 16:41:43 <gnokii> I already have it :D 16:41:46 <mizmo> oh okay 16:42:00 <mizmo> well i can do it if you want 16:42:03 <mizmo> i can make that time 16:42:11 <gnokii> ok 16:42:32 <mizmo> for flock - i haven't done any thinking about it 16:42:39 <mizmo> i need to come up with an idea for a preso i can do 16:43:23 <mizmo> we have a wiki page right 16:43:25 <gnokii> I think we have some good on the page, so I would like to submit my ides 16:43:34 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Flock_2015 16:43:42 <gnokii> the question is who is helping 16:44:11 <mizmo> oh i will definitely help at the design clinic 16:44:15 <mizmo> you can put my name on that 16:44:24 <mizmo> does anybody else going to flock want to help at the design clinic? 16:44:27 <gnokii> is ryan coming to? 16:44:39 <mizmo> we're not sure yet, trying to see if we can get budget together for it 16:44:43 <mizmo> he will try tho 16:45:22 * gnokii is sending ryan a gummiboot 16:45:31 <mizmo> i think i'll propose a design thinking workshop 16:45:58 <mizmo> oh 16:46:02 <mizmo> maybe better to talk about fedora hubs 16:47:02 <gnokii> ++ 16:47:28 <mizmo> okay 16:47:33 <mizmo> anything else? we've got 15 minutes left 16:48:35 <mizmo> okay 16:48:38 <mizmo> let's end it there then :) 16:48:43 <mizmo> thanks for coming eveyrbody :) 16:48:44 <gnokii> doesnt look so 16:48:49 <M1C4HTRON13> can someone give me an invite to the FAS group? 16:48:50 <mizmo> #endmeeting