18:03:03 <mizmo> #startmeeting
18:03:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 28 18:03:03 2011 UTC.  The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:03:05 <mizmo> #topic rollcall
18:03:14 <gnokii> me is here
18:03:14 * msourada is present
18:03:25 * HakS present
18:04:06 <t2hot> o/
18:04:14 <mizmo> okay since tatica is the wallpaper wrangler and she is not around right now (she is still at lunch)
18:04:21 <mizmo> we'll talk about the alpha wallpaper a little later
18:04:35 * ianweller lurks
18:04:51 * jsmith is here
18:07:07 <mizmo> okay im looking up our previous meting minutes
18:08:28 <mizmo> so last week we talked about supplemental wallpapers
18:08:31 <mizmo> the deadline for that is coming up soon
18:09:08 <mizmo> we also talked about the fudcon india designs
18:09:14 <mizmo> is there anybody here involved with the fudcon india work?
18:09:23 <mizmo> there was good progress made on the logo last week
18:09:28 <mizmo> #topic fudcon india
18:10:00 * jsmith is marginally involved (from a planning perspective, not from the actual design perspective)
18:10:19 <mizmo> i saw this post from suchakra http://suchakra.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/fudcon-india-2011-design-updates-1/
18:10:27 <mizmo> and we provided some feedback on that last meeting
18:10:59 <mizmo> it doesn't look like he has posted an update yet.
18:11:21 <mizmo> #info would be good to get an update on fudcon india poster status http://suchakra.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/fudcon-india-2011-design-updates-1/
18:11:22 <gnokii> this morning was a shirt proposal on the list but wasnt from suchkara
18:11:47 <mizmo> yep
18:11:53 <mizmo> here is buddhika's shirt proposal
18:12:07 <gnokii> front was good backside not so much
18:12:08 <mizmo> #info buddhika's proposal for fudcon india tshirt https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/File:Fudcon-india-tshirt-1-design.png
18:13:17 <mizmo> does anyone have some critique we could send buddhika?
18:14:08 * kirkB is here now (sorry to be late)
18:14:16 <mizmo> oh tatica sent me some mockups for fudcon india too
18:14:31 <mizmo> so this is the logo; i think we all agreed last week this is good and we should go with it:
18:14:32 <mizmo> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5961407519_6760a5cbb6_o.png
18:14:55 <mizmo> #info fudcon india logo http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6135/5961407519_6760a5cbb6_o.png
18:15:03 <mizmo> er pune
18:15:10 <mizmo> #info fudcon pune poster http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5962277370_fd84b3f46a_o.png
18:15:14 <mizmo> i think the poster still needs some work
18:15:18 <msourada> the logo looks nice, the back side of the shirt is strange. Looks like some low-res scaled design...
18:15:27 <mizmo> i think maybe the colors on the poster are too much
18:15:29 <gnokii> msourada: +1
18:15:47 <mizmo> i like that the poster describes what fudcon is though
18:15:49 <gnokii> mizmo: its the building what is now to much
18:15:57 <mizmo> yeh on the tshirt, it is hard to make out what hte design is on the back.
18:16:04 <mizmo> and it has a background, which looks odd.
18:16:33 <mizmo> tatica also sent me a mockup for the fudcon pune website
18:16:35 <mizmo> #info http://www.fudcon.tuxdna.in/APAC/index.html
18:16:46 <mizmo> it's a good start
18:16:53 <mizmo> i think its a bit strange to have a picture of milan though
18:17:01 * t2hot ...brb
18:17:10 <mizmo> t looks like it was originally a milan mockup because it has milan info along the bottom too
18:17:33 <msourada> indeed :D
18:18:30 <gnokii> think the shape from the logo can repeated on the backside in different sizes
18:18:57 <mizmo> gnokii, the rosette pattern?
18:19:01 <mizmo> i think that would look very cool
18:19:07 <gnokii> just one thing when he keep the whit shirts I would do the bubbles in blue instead black
18:19:12 <gnokii> yes the rosettte
18:19:16 <mizmo> the blue in this mockup looks like the wrong color blue. it's too purple ish
18:19:41 <gnokii> u mean from the logo?
18:20:28 <mizmo> no, there is a blue bar in the center of the screen
18:20:39 <mizmo> it's behind the milan photo
18:20:42 <mizmo> http://www.fudcon.tuxdna.in/APAC/index.html do you see it?
18:20:48 <gnokii> mom
18:21:25 <gnokii> thaught we talk about the shirt
18:22:21 <mizmo> ohhh
18:22:23 <mizmo> let me go back to the shirt
18:22:41 <mizmo> i can't really understand what the design in the back is
18:22:48 <mizmo> but i agree if it is blue instead of black it would look better
18:23:20 <mizmo> there's no isuse with the front of the shirt though, right?
18:23:40 <tatica> o/
18:23:43 <tatica> sry I'm late
18:23:44 <tatica> :S
18:23:44 <gnokii> no it looks fine
18:23:57 <msourada> the front is nice
18:23:59 <mizmo> okay i will send him some critique right now
18:24:44 * tatica reading fast backlog
18:24:49 <tatica> aja done
18:25:25 <mizmo> so we discussed the fudcon logo design = it seems +1 from everyone
18:25:28 * tatica eating lunch right now at meeting :D
18:25:37 <mizmo> we discussed buddhika's shirt = it seems we like the front of the design but the back needs some more work
18:25:45 <mizmo> the website mockup you sent me tatica, i think needs more work
18:25:55 <mizmo> and also i think the fudcon pune poster needs some more work but is a good improvement from the last version
18:26:08 <tatica> mizmo, a lot, that was the modification made to Milan template to fit all regions
18:26:23 <mizmo> yeh we figured that out looking at it closely :)
18:26:25 <tatica> now comes the work of fill it, mether has already provide some info for it and tuxdna will work on that
18:26:29 <mizmo> the problem with the regions navigation bar though
18:26:35 <mizmo> is that the upper left corner says fudcon pune.
18:26:42 <mizmo> but what happens if you click north america?
18:26:45 <mizmo> the logo will have to change
18:26:47 <mizmo> but that might look weird?
18:26:55 <mizmo> maybe better to have a generic 'fudcon' logo in the upper left
18:27:03 <mizmo> then do the full location logo somewhere else on the page to show the location
18:27:06 <tatica> mizmo, sure, was mostly a navigation work
18:27:13 <tatica> mizmo, not yet a region work
18:27:14 <mizmo> i really like the idea of one fudcon wbesite though where you can find out about all of the fudcons
18:27:17 <mizmo> it is a great idea
18:27:17 <mizmo> cool
18:27:23 <mizmo> did you see the poster critique?
18:27:28 <xconstaud> (I'm still working to become a member of Fedora Design Team) but the front of the shirt is very casual and I like it.  If you want more profesional look you can throw the logo up in the upper right/left breast of the shirt and scale it down a bit.  Either way will look great depending on event.
18:27:44 <mizmo> welcome to the team xconstaud!!
18:27:52 <tatica> fast brb (5min)
18:28:09 <xconstaud> Thanks, I'm still working on becoming "offical" :)
18:28:46 <mizmo> xconstaud, cool, we will help you through it. it looks like you have been making some good progress on the scientific spin
18:28:59 <tatica> back
18:29:12 <mizmo> tatica, do you want to discuss the fudcon pune poster more or should we move on to the f16 artwork?
18:29:31 <tatica> like we already start with pune lets talk a bit about it
18:29:31 <mizmo> i know martin needs us to make an alpha decision so he can get it packaged, and he needs our help with karma
18:29:34 <mizmo> okay
18:29:40 * tatica saves wallpaper to the end.. :$
18:29:41 <mizmo> the only thing left to discuss on pune is the release poster
18:30:04 <mizmo> okay so here is the poster design http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6143/5962277370_fd84b3f46a_o.png
18:30:13 <mizmo> i think the logo is perfect
18:30:26 <mizmo> i think it has some great information too
18:30:38 <gnokii> hups thats a complete new one
18:30:42 <mizmo> it says what fudcon is about, it has some topics, it has the where
18:30:47 <mizmo> nd it has more info
18:31:06 <mizmo> i think the multicolors are a bit distracting though?
18:31:12 <mizmo> and i think the information on the page could have a stronger hierarchy
18:31:16 <mizmo> for example
18:31:17 <gnokii> its good only the words on the side are distructing
18:31:39 <mizmo> i think it would be good to have a slug for the poster
18:31:44 <mizmo> for example, 'Interested in open source?'
18:31:50 <mizmo> and that should be the biggest, #1 in the hierarchy
18:32:02 <mizmo> then the date, time, location (there are no times of day here) should be #2
18:32:05 <msourada> about the poster: I think the text looks too cramped. I'm not sure how big the result poster will be, but I'd suggest making the font smaller and thus allowing some spacing between the general text and headings
18:32:10 <mizmo> then the 'what' and 'topics' could be 3rd in hierarchy
18:32:12 * tatica would like to keep colors (since India is colorful and they really like them) but that was my best idea
18:32:24 <tatica> if any of you can see a way to make colors work.. plis plis help
18:32:27 <mizmo> tatica, they would make it difficult to xerox though, and they don't impart useful information
18:32:28 <xconstaud> Maybe more blue/black/gray/white varients...all the color is a bit distracting in the poster
18:32:54 <tatica> yeap, I know... my baconipsum doesn't help too much hehe
18:32:59 <gnokii> mizmo: the colors are fine its just to much text and the white text on the right side have to be removed
18:33:17 <mizmo> does anybody know who will be using the posters?
18:33:24 <tatica> what if we change text for more like what we have on $foundations?
18:33:28 <tatica> * 4Foundations
18:33:31 <mizmo> do they have access to a color printer?
18:33:33 <tatica> hmm slogans?
18:33:38 <tatica> mizmo, afaik, yes
18:33:39 <mizmo> i think just one slogan, not four.
18:33:42 <tatica> they will go on full color
18:33:56 <mizmo> the slogan should be something that could capture the interest of somebody who has never heard of fudcon before
18:34:06 <gnokii> looks like a flyer not like an poster to me
18:34:16 <mizmo> do you know how large they are going to print them, tatica?
18:34:17 <tatica> gnokii, interesting...
18:34:25 <tatica> half-tabloid maybe
18:34:27 <mizmo> it does look more like a flyer to me, but thats usually how we do them
18:34:32 <tatica> mether is not online, but I can ask tomorrow
18:34:36 <mizmo> okay
18:34:47 <tatica> even so, that can also work for a flyer
18:34:49 <tatica> gnokii, thx!
18:35:02 <tatica> Blacksburg ask for flyers so I can change it to fit there too
18:35:25 <gnokii> ha, thats another topic
18:35:51 <mizmo> the flyer can have colors but i think they need to be integrated a bit better
18:35:54 <mizmo> right now they distract, i think
18:36:08 <mizmo> it is hard to read the text on top of the building too
18:36:23 <mizmo> maybe if the color bars on the left were more narrow
18:36:30 <mizmo> then they wouldn't pull your eye so much
18:36:45 <mizmo> but there is no hierarchy to the design except for the logo
18:36:47 <gnokii> its to much information hidden on them
18:36:52 <mizmo> it's hard to understand where your eye is supposed to go
18:36:56 <mizmo> is their an svg for this design?
18:38:20 <mizmo> tatica, do you have an svg for the poster design?
18:38:27 * mizmo shakes fist at bofh
18:38:57 <tatica> I'm back!
18:38:59 <tatica> sure, but nowhere to upload it thx to BOFH
18:39:03 <tatica> sending to your mail mizmo
18:39:05 <tatica> as long all svg I have of Pune
18:39:08 <mizmo> okay sweet
18:39:20 <tatica> done
18:39:43 <mizmo> ill try to work a hierarchy into it so you can see what i mean
18:40:20 <tatica> sure :D
18:40:32 <mizmo> okay
18:40:37 <mizmo> any other discussion of fudcon pune?
18:40:43 <tatica> ok, I'm having internet problems so I rather to go with wallpaper now
18:40:46 <tatica> my Bofh is starting to attack
18:40:51 * t2hot is back
18:41:21 <mizmo> okay
18:41:24 <mizmo> #topic f16 wallpaper
18:41:28 <mizmo> so we need to pick a wallpaper for alpha
18:41:36 <mizmo> so msourada can get started packaging
18:41:38 <tatica> #link http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/
18:42:16 <tatica> will be good that everyone in the room pick a number?
18:42:18 <msourada> basically I need:
18:42:18 <mizmo> it is between the castle design and the iceberg design right?
18:42:18 <tatica> (only one)
18:42:18 <gnokii> http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/80
18:42:20 <msourada> a)
18:42:26 <xconstaud> I like this idea: http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/76
18:42:27 <msourada> a) pictures to be used
18:42:29 <mizmo> tatica, which #'s can we pick from
18:42:31 <msourada> b) who worked on them
18:43:05 <mizmo> some of the ideas on the artboard have been abandoned so its important to vote on an idea that someone is working on
18:43:28 <tatica> I would say mostly between 81-80-85
18:43:46 <tatica> but I would think that wont hurt to make 1 or 2 rounds in order to have a common decition
18:43:55 <mizmo> okay what about http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/post/view/75
18:43:56 <msourada> 78 might work for alpha?
18:44:21 <tatica> 85/75 sry
18:44:30 <mizmo> okay so we vote between 81, 80, and 75?
18:44:49 <tatica> if nobody is oposed, yes... if someone want to add another one to the vote pls feel free to say it now
18:44:53 <mizmo> i think we had ruled out 80 two weeks ago
18:45:00 <mizmo> so i do not think 80 is in the running
18:45:23 <tatica> so between 75 and 81?
18:45:26 <mizmo> yep
18:45:35 <tatica> pls, ANYONE who doesn't believe mizmo and I are correct raise your hand
18:45:49 <msourada> I'd go with 81 or 78...
18:46:09 <tatica> msourada, oka, 81 78 75
18:46:09 * jsmith takes a quick look
18:46:11 <tatica> anyone else?
18:46:13 <mizmo> can we talk about the amount of work for each too
18:46:14 <tatica> take your time
18:46:16 <jsmith> Gimme one minute?
18:46:21 <tatica> mizmo, can we give 5-10min?
18:46:24 <mizmo> 75 does not have much work left to do
18:46:27 <t2hot> 81/78
18:46:30 <mizmo> it would affect how i vote
18:46:31 <mizmo> if i knew
18:46:43 <mizmo> t2hot, do you have enough time to invest in the castle to iterate it for beta?
18:46:56 <t2hot> this is alpha right?
18:47:01 <mizmo> this is alpha yes
18:47:11 <t2hot> how many days to beta?
18:47:12 <tatica> yeap
18:47:28 <mizmo> i believe you'll have 2-3 weeks to work on it for beta
18:47:54 <msourada> Beta wallpapers deadline — Fri 2 September 2011
18:48:01 <msourada> ^^from our schedule
18:48:04 <t2hot> yeah, I think a lot can happen in 2 weeks ...so yes
18:48:10 <mizmo> okay
18:48:17 <mizmo> how much work needs to be done on the castle
18:48:52 <mizmo> we haven't seen a revision in 2 weeks
18:48:55 <gnokii> look mizmo u dont have to buy a house t2hot can draw u a castle :D
18:48:57 <t2hot> I'm currently resizing (castle/island) so that its not taking too much space
18:49:02 <HakS> i like 75
18:49:11 <mizmo> is it closer to the end, or is there still much work to do
18:49:27 <mizmo> gnokii, lol that would be wonderful
18:49:36 <t2hot> 3D work is just work mizmo ... until you stop.  Its just work
18:49:50 <mizmo> t2hot, yes but theres definitely discrete chunks right?
18:49:53 <t2hot> But if you're having fun ... you don't feel it
18:50:10 <mizmo> t2hot, like with 75. there are two tasks left to do: finish the rocks, and potentially add the shipwreck.
18:50:13 <tatica> t2hot, lets take some quick maths
18:50:14 <mizmo> it doesn't need the shipwreck.
18:50:18 <mizmo> the minimum needed is the rock fix.
18:50:24 <mizmo> it would be roughly 2 hours of work.
18:50:33 <mizmo> i could work much longer on it, but thats what i think it needs.
18:50:46 <t2hot> castle/island will not be ready in 2hrs
18:51:00 <tatica> anyone else want to vote?
18:51:03 <mizmo> we could take some shortcuts though
18:51:10 <t2hot> so going by time ... the underwater design is a fast route
18:51:12 <tatica> how's the "ping all" thing?
18:51:13 <mizmo> eg we could enhance a render with 2D artwork
18:51:22 <t2hot> sure
18:51:23 <mizmo> it doesn't have to be all 3d
18:51:26 <xconstaud> I vote 75
18:51:44 <msourada> +1 for enhanced 3D castle ;-)
18:51:46 <mizmo> im not sure tatica :(
18:52:01 <tatica> lol... zodbot doesn't like us
18:52:10 <msourada> *2D enhanced ....
18:52:11 <mizmo> i vote 75 just because of time factors. i think the castle could be beautiful but i am worried about the risk.
18:52:31 * mizmo plays it safe
18:52:48 <tatica> well, from my point of view I see that both will go in our iso
18:52:56 <tatica> we only need to figure out which will be default
18:52:57 <gnokii> the risk it is not done untile release or the risk that most dont like it?
18:52:58 <tatica> right?
18:53:05 <msourada> well to me the castle looks more attractive and with better colouring as it is now...
18:53:14 <xconstaud> Atleast for alpha...then decide when beta comes around.
18:53:15 <mizmo> if the iceberg one isn't picked for alpha im going to dro pit
18:53:35 <t2hot> Can we swap artwork at beta if the tables turn?
18:53:36 <mizmo> because i dont want to be stuck in another up-all-night-every-night-the-week-before-final again
18:53:45 <t2hot> is that permissible?
18:53:50 <mizmo> i need to know now if i need to work more on 75 t2hot
18:54:02 <mizmo> unless someone else wants to pick it up (which is 110% fine with me)
18:54:18 <tatica> jsmith, any vote yet?
18:54:58 * t2hot is trying the read mizmo's mind
18:55:01 <tatica> ixxvil, elad661 Emichan ianweller schendje
18:55:06 <mizmo> t2hot, of course if we are in a bind it'll have to happen. i just really do not want to be in that situation again.
18:55:10 <ianweller> hey what
18:55:12 <mizmo> it's not fair to me.
18:55:14 <tatica> t2hot, that can be dangerous... you'll find mostly pandas
18:55:23 <t2hot> understand
18:55:27 <tatica> mizmo, np, We understand :)
18:55:31 <mizmo> i hear drills
18:55:32 <tatica> ianweller, vote... now!!!
18:55:40 * ianweller tries to find a link
18:55:40 <gnokii> and miss kitty :D
18:55:47 <mizmo> i think a wall is getting taken down here lol
18:55:51 <tatica> http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/
18:55:57 <t2hot> I want to see the end of the castle ... which ever way this goes anyway
18:55:58 <tatica> ianweller, http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/
18:55:58 <mizmo> hello panda - it's a type of cookie you know
18:56:09 <ianweller> tatica: what am i voting between?
18:56:23 <msourada> ianweller: 81, 78, 75
18:56:25 <tatica> ianweller, wallpaper o0
18:56:31 <ianweller> msourada: thx
18:56:45 <mizmo> t2hot, it could go either way for beta. if we pick one for alpha and change our mind based on feedback it's possible to switch
18:57:00 * ianweller waits for slow hotel wifi
18:57:03 <tatica> mizmo, didn't knew that :P
18:57:04 <mizmo> i just dont want iceberg to come back up if it isn't picked now :)
18:57:09 <mizmo> tatica, sure why not
18:57:19 <mizmo> tatica, its up to you anyway
18:57:27 <tatica> u_U
18:57:28 <mizmo> tatica, but i dont see why we couldn't. the splash artwork will be generic
18:57:30 * tatica gets a slap
18:57:32 <mizmo> but after beta it cant change
18:57:33 <t2hot> I see
18:57:36 <tatica> lol
18:57:40 <mizmo> because websites, etc.
18:57:42 <mizmo> right?
18:57:49 <mizmo> maybe not
18:57:50 <mizmo> ignore me
18:57:51 <elad661> 75
18:57:53 <tatica> lol
18:58:05 * gnokii brings in the dices
18:58:06 <ianweller> tatica: still need my opinion?
18:58:11 <tatica> ok, waiting then for jsmith and ianweller votes
18:58:12 <tatica> ianweller, yes
18:58:25 * jsmith is almost there...
18:58:25 <tatica> ianweller, your price will be a cookie
18:58:32 * t2hot votes for PROGRESS!
18:58:34 <mizmo> a hello panda cookie
18:58:39 <ianweller> i like cookies
18:58:45 <tatica> ianweller, then vote u_U
18:58:46 <jsmith> Ok, my vote (ranked from highest to lowest) is: 75, 78, 81
18:58:50 <tatica> no vote, no cookie
18:58:51 <ianweller> tatica: in order, most favorable to least favorable, 75 81 78
18:58:56 <mizmo> http://kawaii.kawaii.at/img/Panda-double-chocolate-biscuits-meiji-1_big.jpg
18:58:58 <tatica> jsmith, so 75
18:59:06 <jsmith> Yes, 75 is my preferred
18:59:09 <pcon> hey folks.  Sorry I'm late.  Family emergency
18:59:15 <tatica> is anyone want to vote, then 75 is
18:59:19 <tatica> pcon, wanna vote?
18:59:20 <mizmo> no sweat pcon
18:59:34 <pcon> tatica: what are we voting on.  'cause 1337 is my fav num > 100
18:59:39 <tatica> lol
18:59:46 <tatica> pcon, http://publictest04.fedoraproject.org/artboard/
18:59:58 <mizmo> what about 31337 pcon :)
19:00:07 <pcon> that's just silly
19:00:22 <tatica> l33t
19:01:08 <msourada> pcon: these are the current voted-on options: 81, 78, 75
19:01:18 <tatica> yeap
19:01:49 <Emichan> wait what? there's a meeting now? sry! :P
19:01:51 <pcon> ok then 75, 81, 78 in that order
19:02:04 <tatica> well... is done then
19:02:07 * tatica breaths
19:02:10 * Emichan scrolls back
19:02:17 <tatica> Emichan, lol vote!
19:02:51 <Emichan> i'm looking - just one sec :)
19:03:15 <pcon> as for supplemental wallpapers we've gotten 2 other entries, and I'll do one last blitz this week and I'll send a vote out to the mailing list next Wednesday (unless we want to do it via irc)
19:03:23 <tatica> Emichan, go, take your time :D
19:04:07 <kirkB> tatica, my vote in order: 75, 81, 78
19:04:09 <Emichan> i won't delay the meeting any longer - 75 get's my vote :)
19:04:13 <mizmo> sounds great pcon
19:04:42 <tatica> pcon, you can do an informal poll public (mail or whatever) to have an idea of what "people like"
19:04:50 <tatica> and then bring final decition to meeting
19:04:56 <t2hot> 75 wins then ... so mizmo your call :)
19:04:59 <msourada> mizmo, has anyone else worked on 75 besides you (needed for proper attribution)?
19:05:08 <mizmo> yes ixxvil and HaKs did
19:05:11 <HakS> me
19:05:12 <HakS> :D
19:05:19 <mizmo> it was a team effort
19:05:23 <tatica> :D
19:05:32 * tatica even help at begining, so can join forces
19:05:51 <mizmo> its true. tatica do you want to be listed on the package too?
19:05:59 <tatica> o0 no no
19:06:02 <tatica> I will only help
19:06:04 <mizmo> okay
19:06:06 <tatica> I did nothing lol
19:06:15 <mizmo> you helped HakS get started with the group though
19:06:18 <mizmo> it's based on his submission
19:06:24 <ianweller> mizmo: (when we're done with wallpapers i have a quick note on brand + trademark guidelines)
19:06:26 <msourada> ok, attributing mizmo, ixxvil, HaKs, tatica. Sounds right?
19:06:43 <tatica> mizmo, :P everything was for a coffee.. right HakS ? :P
19:06:50 <mizmo> it sounds good to me msourada, go for it
19:06:52 <mizmo> ianweller, sure
19:07:14 <pcon> tatica: msourada so the only thing is that we've got 15 to pick and getting a feel for what people like might not narrow it down enough
19:07:21 <msourada> ok, next thing: is there anyone present here who could do a package review in about half an hour?
19:07:25 <tatica> mizmo, even so, I will need a background as at 80 for general purposes
19:07:26 <ianweller> msourada: yes
19:07:30 <tatica> separated elements
19:07:38 * tatica is sure that mizmo made it using layers
19:07:39 <ianweller> msourada: ping me on irc and i'll churn it out
19:07:49 <ianweller> msourada: it's just a wallpaper package, right?
19:08:00 <mizmo> tatica, you mean 75?
19:08:06 <tatica> yeap
19:08:07 <msourada> ianweller, thanks. Now going off to finish the wallpaper package.
19:08:12 <mizmo> tatica, sure i can upload the .ora file, it's layered, you can open in mypaint or gimp
19:08:12 <ianweller> msourada: :)
19:08:18 <tatica> mizmo, awesome!
19:08:24 <tatica> weekend homework :P
19:08:29 <tatica> msourada, question
19:08:41 <tatica> msourada, now what? we should do some banners to promote it?
19:10:00 <msourada> tatica: basically, after I build the package I need at least three people to test it and give positive karma (logged in bodhi).
19:10:26 <tatica> oki
19:10:38 <mizmo> i can karma
19:10:57 <HakS> me too :)
19:10:59 <msourada> tatica: the pacakge should be prepared tomorrow (unless stalled on adding to git) and we need karma at monday the latest (so that it gets pushed at tuesday the latest)
19:11:13 <ianweller> let's go for the world record in newpackage time
19:11:16 <ianweller> ;)
19:11:25 <mizmo> thanks for packaging msourada
19:11:31 <tatica> msourada, perfect!
19:11:32 <msourada> :)
19:11:57 <mizmo> since we're running over a bit should we move on to brand & trademark guidelines then
19:12:04 <ianweller> hiya
19:12:13 <gnokii> +1
19:12:47 <ianweller> just wanted to make a quick note of what's been happening, pchestek and i met in person yesterday to talk about expanding the trademark guidelines to include guidelines for the rest of our trademarks, which include the foundations, fudcon and fill-in-the-blank fedora logos
19:13:15 * t2hot 's internet stops in 48mins
19:13:33 <ianweller> i'll be posting the notes we came up with for potential use cases for all of those after i flesh them out a bit to design-team and advisory-board, and pchestek will be working on a draft of the trademark guidelines that integrates everything on a user subpage on the wiki
19:13:40 <mizmo> okay cool
19:14:04 <ianweller> that's all i have. we just want to make sure we have everybody's feedback on the use cases
19:14:16 <tatica> nice!
19:14:36 <mizmo> cool
19:14:44 <mizmo> anything else or should we close meeting?
19:14:53 <tatica> yes
19:15:02 <tatica> we have 3 Fudcon's near
19:15:19 <tatica> so after wallpaper process is done, pls join any of them and give some feedback or help
19:15:28 <tatica> in order: Milan, Pune and Blacksburg
19:15:31 <tatica> also, a final message
19:15:53 <tatica> pls pls pls... if ANY team ask you personally to help with a design task, open a ticket and/or a mail thread and let the team be part of it
19:16:07 <tatica> a group work can help a lot more than a single effort
19:16:13 <tatica> eof
19:16:15 <mizmo> having archives is handy too :)
19:16:25 <mizmo> if you have the discussion on the list you can go back and see what you talked about easily
19:16:27 <mizmo> its harder in email
19:16:30 <tatica> yeap, be clear and open :P
19:16:42 <gnokii> :D
19:17:20 <gnokii> has someone a idea for a logo blacksburg?
19:17:51 <mizmo> maybe a hokie turkey?
19:17:59 <tatica> not yet :\ there is a thread with some helpful info
19:18:08 <mizmo> tatica, is the thread on design-team or ambassadors?
19:18:09 <gnokii> hokie turkey?
19:18:12 <t2hot> which ticket is that?
19:18:14 <tatica> let me find it
19:18:17 <tatica> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/194
19:18:29 <mizmo> gnokii, yeh there are some turkeys called hokies in blacksburg i guess, it's the university of virginia mascot
19:19:12 <gnokii> mizmo so a turkey
19:19:21 <mizmo> lol yeh i think so
19:19:26 <mizmo> im not sure if its the best idea though
19:19:39 <mizmo> the area is also very state-of-the-art / tech-savvy
19:19:43 <tatica> I would like also that if anyone is joining at this task
19:19:44 <mizmo> so maybe a robotic turkey?? <= crazy?
19:19:54 <tatica> please, aware Souther_gentleman of your moves
19:20:02 <t2hot> ah, shirt stuff ... not my kinda area
19:20:09 <tatica> he is open and willing to know about the process and is very enthusiastic about it
19:21:54 <gnokii> mmh
19:21:59 * t2hot wonders if he's still online
19:22:09 <tatica> t2hot, you're
19:22:14 <tatica> (or we are all offline)
19:22:16 <mizmo> i see you t2hot
19:22:25 <t2hot> ok
19:22:33 <tatica> "I see offline people" <== this should be a t-shirt
19:22:37 <tatica> ...........
19:22:41 <tatica> I like it
19:22:48 <tatica> ok, I guess we're done
19:23:03 * t2hot thinks its awesome ... spooky, wicked and cooooool
19:23:31 <tatica> me? thank you
19:23:48 <mizmo> #endmeeting