19:19:55 <mizmo> #startmeeting
19:19:55 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Nov 30 19:19:55 2010 UTC.  The chair is mizmo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:20:13 <Schendje> yay!
19:20:31 <mizmo> okay so our first topic
19:20:39 <mizmo> #topic F15 supplemental wallpapers
19:20:53 <mizmo> so martin got a request via bugzilla today actually, from someone wanting to submit a wallpaper
19:21:01 <mizmo> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=658427
19:21:19 <mizmo> so it might be good to figure out who can manage supplemental wallpapers this release
19:21:24 <mizmo> and put out the announcement
19:21:49 <mizmo> msourada set up a wiki page space for them https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_Artwork/Submissions#Supplemental_Wallpaper_Submissions
19:21:56 <mizmo> although we might want to do a full blown page just for them like last time
19:22:09 <mizmo> is anyone interested in managing the supplemental wallpapers for f15?
19:22:35 <msourada> moving them to their own page is an easy task -- especially given we have so far only one (intended) submission ;)
19:23:37 * finalzone has already hands full =(
19:23:42 <mizmo> it'll basically be a copy of this page https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Submissions
19:24:04 <mizmo> ill make the new iki page right now
19:24:47 <msourada> mizmo: cool, don't forget to add [[Category:F15_Artwork]] ;-)
19:25:36 <mizmo> i wonder if rigeld2's script will work
19:25:42 <mizmo> i think we might have to change it to point to the new page
19:26:13 <msourada> yeah, probably
19:27:03 <mizmo> do we know the deadline for supplemental wallpaper submissions?
19:27:27 <msourada> mizmo: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_Artwork/Schedule
19:27:34 <msourada> (In Progress) Submissions deadline — Mon 7 March 2011, 23:59 UTC
19:27:42 <mizmo> sweet thanks
19:28:24 <mizmo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Submissions
19:28:41 <mizmo> oh the script will work
19:29:01 <mizmo> it just uploads the images as individual media, then spits out the wiki text to copy/paste into the page
19:29:20 <msourada> mizmo, can you use underscore (_) instead of dash(-) for the categories? We already have F15_Artwork category
19:29:38 <mizmo> yeh fixing that now
19:29:46 <mizmo> should be fixed now
19:29:47 <mizmo> okay
19:29:57 <mizmo> so we don't have anyone to manage the supplemental wallpaper process
19:30:06 <mizmo> should we wait until next week and see if anybody can do it then?
19:30:07 <msourada> nice thanks
19:30:33 <Schendje> when do we need to do it?
19:30:44 <Schendje> is it smart to announce it already?
19:30:45 <msourada> well, there's still a lot of time. We can probably announce how to submit as well as ask on list if anyone wants to manage it..
19:31:46 <mizmo> anybody up for taking care of the announcement & mailing list post?
19:32:46 <eric1982> Is there a link on how the wallpaper submit was handled in the last release?
19:33:10 <msourada> Hrm, I can write a blogpost with the announcement and probably announce that we are open for concept submissions for the default wallpaper too, on my blog
19:33:52 <mizmo> eric1982, sure one sec
19:33:58 <mizmo> erani, so this is the wiki from F14: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Submissions
19:34:02 <Emichan> did we ever get a 'design-team' shared blog set up?
19:34:04 <mizmo> argh ^ eric1982
19:34:13 <mizmo> Emichan, still waiting on infra for it, i can poke 'em
19:34:23 <msourada> Emichan, we have design planet -- I have it in my feeds
19:34:37 <mizmo> there was some issue where they couldn't do a group blog based on FAS groups and they wanted to extend the plugin to handle that
19:34:41 <mizmo> but i dont know if it went anywhere
19:34:52 <mizmo> they could create one now and manually add each of us in though
19:34:53 <msourada> Emichan: http://planet.fedoraproject.org/design/atom.xml
19:34:56 <mizmo> but it'd be harder to maintain access
19:35:35 <Emichan> msourada - isn't that an aggregation of individuals blogs?
19:35:39 <mizmo> eric1982, http://sixgun.org/fab/blog/2010/f14-wallpapers  this is fab's blogpost on it
19:36:05 <msourada> Emichan, aah, yeah, I misunderstood what you meant...
19:36:35 <mizmo> #action mizmo to check in with infra team on group blog status
19:37:00 <mizmo> #action msourada to write blog post on supplemental wallpaper submissions opening & f15 wallpaper concept submissions
19:37:06 <mizmo> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_Artwork/Schedule
19:37:17 <mizmo> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_Artwork/Submissions#Supplemental_Wallpaper_Submissions
19:37:22 <mizmo> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F14_Artwork_Supplemental_Wallpapers_Submissions
19:37:31 <mizmo> #link http://sixgun.org/fab/blog/2010/f14-wallpapers
19:37:35 <mizmo> k
19:37:54 <Schendje> eric1982: FWIW, here's my short blurb to the users list about it: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-July/377900.html
19:38:02 <mizmo> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-July/377900.html
19:38:04 <Schendje> though that really doesn't say anything except point to Fab's blog post ;)
19:38:23 <eric1982> :) ok thanks
19:39:37 <mizmo> okay so next topic is F15 default wallpaper
19:39:42 <mizmo> #topic F15 default wallpaper
19:39:58 <mizmo> so we need to schedule a brainstorm/sketching sessino
19:40:19 <mizmo> and we might also want to talk to the gnome shell peeps to see what kinds of wallpapers they think would work well with the shell
19:40:31 <mizmo> Schendje, are you still up for arranging the brainstorm/sketch session?
19:40:42 <Schendje> ah yeah, just realized i didn't do that last week
19:40:59 <Schendje> i'll try it again ;)
19:41:53 <mizmo> coolio
19:42:06 <mizmo> #action Schendje to arrange brainstorm/sketch session for F15 wallpapers
19:42:15 <mizmo> ill take the action item to talk to the gnome shell peeps and see wht they think
19:42:21 <Emichan> they just released a new gnome-shell with overview-relayout merged
19:42:32 <mizmo> #action mizmo to talk to gnome shell peeps re: suitable wallpapers / guidelines
19:42:41 <mizmo> Emichan, are you using it? are there screenshots?
19:43:04 <Emichan> I'm using it - I can post some screenshots just gimme a sec
19:43:21 <Emichan> overview mode is very different now
19:45:47 <mizmo> sweet, changes are exciting :)
19:46:10 <Emichan> the gs design folks are using a blue, vertical striped wallpaper in their mockups fyi
19:46:48 <mizmo> yeh i think hylke or jimmac made that one? i have a copy of the source
19:47:27 <mizmo> any one been thinking about ideas for lovelock?
19:47:41 <mizmo> to me, and i can't really rationalize it except that a lock is a 'gadget' - it makes me think steampunk
19:47:50 <mizmo> so i think im going to work on a steampunk proposal :)
19:48:11 <Emichan> mizmo cool - i love steampunk :)
19:48:29 <msourada> steampunk again? LOL can't wait to see the ideas
19:48:37 <Emichan> here's a screenshot of the new gs layout: http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/Screenshot-gs_overview.png
19:49:04 <mizmo> msourada, one of these releases it'll have to stick :)
19:49:15 <msourada> hehe
19:49:20 <mizmo> whoah it's... blue?
19:49:21 <Emichan> woah - nevermind that didn't look good :/ i'll upload a new one
19:49:32 <Emichan> bad compression i think...
19:49:35 <Schendje> Emichan: funky
19:50:11 * finalzone cant stop thinking about tron...
19:50:13 <Emichan> that's what i get for not checking it before upping it
19:52:50 <mizmo> so it kind of hides the workspaces view thingy
19:52:56 <mizmo> interesting
19:53:28 <Emichan> reload it - so much better!
19:53:43 <mizmo> ahhh there we go
19:54:00 <Emichan> the workspaces are still there - but there's no grid view anymore
19:54:04 <mizmo> ooh i like the evo icon
19:54:20 <mizmo> nice
19:54:26 <Emichan> that's the faenza icon set
19:54:29 <Emichan> :)
19:54:34 <Emichan> is nice
19:54:59 <mizmo> well our next topic is gnome shell theming
19:55:00 <mizmo> :)
19:55:04 <mizmo> #topic gnome shell theming
19:55:33 <mizmo> a reminder to folks that Emichan set up this wiki page for discussion & screenshot posting of gnome shell theming projects
19:55:34 <mizmo> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Gnome_shell_theming
19:56:08 <mizmo> since we have 5 minutes left i'll fly through the rest
19:56:13 <mizmo> #topic Tempe t shirt design
19:56:16 <mizmo> Emichan, any updates?
19:56:48 <Emichan> I've got a couple of concepts I've got initial sketches for - i've just got to digitize them so I can get some feedback :)
19:56:56 <Schendje> Emichan: sweetness
19:57:50 <Emichan> i'll post them to the mailing list as soon as
19:58:06 <mizmo> sweet looking forward to it :)
19:58:19 <mizmo> #topic fedora rpg
19:58:25 <mizmo> so Fab did an awesome mockup
19:58:39 <mizmo> http://fabsh.fedorapeople.org/rpg/fedora-rpg-badge1.png
19:58:44 <mizmo> im really digging it
19:58:47 <mizmo> we had some discussion around it
19:58:49 <mizmo> #link http://fabsh.fedorapeople.org/rpg/fedora-rpg-badge1.png
19:59:50 <mizmo> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2010-November/003681.html
20:00:21 <Schendje> hmm i don't remember you looking like that photo at all mizmo?
20:00:37 <mizmo> lol
20:00:58 <mizmo> i want to continue that discussion on list and hopefully we can have another iteration by next week
20:01:15 <mizmo> beyond the rpg the only other topic is open floor
20:02:16 <Emichan> just a reminder - anyone who is working on gnome shell theming - here's a link to the gs theme reloader extension - to make things a bit easier
20:02:19 <Emichan> #link http://emichan.fedorapeople.org/Theme_Reloader_GS_Ext.tar.bz2
20:08:29 <mizmo> okay i'll end the meeting now
20:08:31 <mizmo> #endmeeting