#fedora-cloud Meeting

Meeting summary

1. creating current fedora EC2 images (poelcat, 20:04:02)
   1. http://jboss.org/stormgrind (bobmcw, 20:20:24)
   2. http://www.jboss.org/stormgrind/projects/boxgrinder.html (mgoldmann, 20:26:43)
   3. http://community.jboss.org/wiki/StormGrindBoxGrinderDocumentation (mgoldmann, 20:27:01)
   4. Initial goal of project is to provide Useful usable recent Fedora images in Amazon EC2 (Oxf13, 20:35:57)
   5. The initial image will consist of a simple webserver and the tools to add/remove packages from there, plus whatever is necessary for EC2 (Oxf13, 20:36:26)
   6. The initial toolset to accomplish this will be thincrust/appliance-creator, however we will be looking at stormgrind in the future (Oxf13, 20:36:57)
   7. ACTION: huff to deliver a first pass base ks with min packageset extra stuff in post for amazon specific stuff. (Oxf13, 20:38:14)
   8. ACTION: jforbes continues to wrangle a kernel for us to use (Oxf13, 20:38:32)
   9. We have two accounts with amazon (Oxf13, 20:41:46)
   10. one "official" account for "official" spins, and one scratch account for unofficial stuff (Oxf13, 20:42:10)
   11. eucatools is only for uploading the OS image. The kernel is handled differently (Oxf13, 20:48:06)
   12. simple webserver ks -> appliance-creator -> eucatools == OS image in Amazon EC2 (Oxf13, 20:48:47)
   13. vmlinux (not vmlinuz) and initramfs files need to be uploaded (separately) (Oxf13, 20:53:54)
   14. the tool adds nothing material to the image, nothing that is used beyond their infrastructure (Oxf13, 21:01:46)
   15. uploading by the tools counts as the blessing (Oxf13, 21:03:39)
   16. vmlinux/initramfs bundle/upload step is the only part of the process which requires non-free tooling. (Oxf13, 21:05:06)
   17. ACTION: jforbes will document kernel/initramfs upload process (Oxf13, 21:08:29)
   18. ACTION: jforbes will share upload credentials with Fedora kernel developers (Oxf13, 21:08:39)
   19. http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/12/Everything/source/ (Oxf13, 21:19:43)
   20. deliver a README-SOURCES file with the OS version, that points to the release tree from whence the image came (Oxf13, 21:31:12)
   21. to simplify the initial offering, images will only come from GOLD releases, they will not include updates. (Oxf13, 21:32:33)
   22. We have the idea of providing a README-SOURCES with the kernel/initramfs that directs people to the same place the OS image sources are found (Oxf13, 21:35:19)
   23. We have agreed to keep the kernel/initramfs and OS image in lock step as to share the same sources (Oxf13, 21:35:34)
   24. we will have to do something different if we provide updated kernel images (Oxf13, 21:36:00)
   25. in the future, to provide updated kernel/initramfs images with matching kernels, we'll need a tool to discover which initramfs binaries came from which sources (Oxf13, 21:38:29)
   26. ACTION: ask amazon to host srpms on s3 for fedora akis (gregdek, 21:41:48)
   27. ACTION: ask amazon to host update servers for fedora (gregdek, 21:42:03)
   
   
2. Running the image (gregdek, 21:43:30)
   1. Every boot is the "first boot" without use of persistent storage (Oxf13, 21:49:07)
   2. User's SSH key needs to get into the system's root authorized_keys file (Oxf13, 21:49:21)
   3. the tool to stuff user's ssh key goes /inside/ the image (Oxf13, 21:52:16)
   4. http://paulstamatiou.com/how-to-getting-started-with-amazon-ec2 (gregdek, 21:52:43)
   
   
3. Updates (Oxf13, 22:01:55)
   1. ACTION: gregdek will handle getting S3 setup in MirrorManager (Oxf13, 22:02:59)
   2. some would like images to autoupdate, perhaps by force (Oxf13, 22:03:35)
   
   
4. Next Meeting? (Oxf13, 22:06:47)
   1. http://www.physics.umn.edu/~holms/download-sshkeys (gholms, 22:10:32)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Cloud_SIG (gregdek, 22:10:36)
   3. ACTION: gregdek will update wiki page with recap, mailing list info, irc info, etc. (gregdek, 22:11:46)
   4. https://mayhem9.cs.ucsb.edu:8443/ (gholms, 22:13:06)

Action items

1. huff to deliver a first pass base ks with min packageset extra stuff in post for amazon specific stuff.
2. jforbes continues to wrangle a kernel for us to use
3. jforbes will document kernel/initramfs upload process
4. jforbes will share upload credentials with Fedora kernel developers
5. ask amazon to host srpms on s3 for fedora akis
6. ask amazon to host update servers for fedora
7. gregdek will handle getting S3 setup in MirrorManager
8. gregdek will update wiki page with recap, mailing list info, irc info, etc.

Action items, by person

1. gregdek
   1. gregdek will handle getting S3 setup in MirrorManager
   2. gregdek will update wiki page with recap, mailing list info, irc info, etc.
2. huff
   1. huff to deliver a first pass base ks with min packageset extra stuff in post for amazon specific stuff.
3. jforbes
   1. jforbes continues to wrangle a kernel for us to use
   2. jforbes will document kernel/initramfs upload process
   3. jforbes will share upload credentials with Fedora kernel developers
4. UNASSIGNED
   1. ask amazon to host srpms on s3 for fedora akis
   2. ask amazon to host update servers for fedora

People present (lines said)

1. Oxf13 (269)
2. gregdek (238)
3. gholms (128)
4. jforbes (107)
5. huff (65)
6. bobmcw (56)
7. mattdm (35)
8. poelcat (19)
9. mgoldmann (16)
10. smoser (11)
11. lutter (9)
12. zodbot (4)
13. ewan (4)
14. jboggs (4)
15. jgreguske (2)
16. smooge (2)
17. mmcgrath (1)
18. mikeburns (1)
19. stickster (1)