f18final-blocker-review-7
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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-7

Meeting started by tflink at 18:33:07 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (tflink, 18:33:08)
  2. Introduction (tflink, 18:37:56)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 18:38:03)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 18:38:11)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 18:38:11)
    4. The bugs currently proposed as blocker or NTH are available at: (tflink, 18:38:56)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 18:38:56)
    6. The bugs currently queued for discussion are listed at: (tflink, 18:39:39)
    7. http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/blocker_bugs.html (tflink, 18:39:39)
    8. http://tflink.fedorapeople.org/blockerbugs/sorted/nth_bugs.html (tflink, 18:39:42)
    9. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 18:39:46)
    10. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 18:39:46)
    11. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 18:39:46)
    12. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 18:39:46)
    13. At the moment, the total number of blocker/nth bugs is: (tflink, 18:40:03)
    14. 14 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 18:40:10)
    15. 13 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 18:40:10)
    16. 12 Proposed NTH (tflink, 18:40:10)
    17. 27 Accepted NTH (tflink, 18:40:10)
    18. Queued for discussion today are: (tflink, 18:40:25)
    19. 8 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 18:42:57)
    20. 10 Proposed NTH (tflink, 18:42:57)

  3. (889101) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'removeMember' (tflink, 18:43:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889101 (tflink, 18:43:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:44:01)
    3. AGREED: 889101 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion: "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 18:49:13)

  4. (873468) F18 Beta TC7: sometimes when booting netinst, hub comes up showing 'Nothing selected' for Installation Source and Software Selection (tflink, 18:49:18)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873468 (tflink, 18:49:21)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:49:24)
    3. AGREED: 873468 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't happen all the time and seems to be limited to slower than expected dhcp with ipv6, not enough to justify blocking release over. However, it can't be fixed with an update and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. Should be at least documented as commonbugs if not fixed before release (tflink, 18:53:42)

  5. (889330) crash when reclaiming space from disk containing member of incomplete md raid0 (tflink, 18:53:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889330 (tflink, 18:53:55)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:53:57)
    3. AGREED: 889330 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following: Creating, destroying and assigning mount points to partitions of any specified size using most commonly-used filesystem types ..." (tflink, 18:57:26)

  6. (886314) MDRaidError: md_node_from_name failed: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/dev/md/root' (tflink, 18:57:31)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886314 (tflink, 18:57:34)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:57:37)
    3. AGREED: 886314 - RejectedBlocker - It sounds like this issue is not reproducable on more recent versions and therefore rejected as a blocker for F18 final. Please re-propose if a reproducing case is discovered. (tflink, 19:05:47)

  7. (887539) FormatDestroyError: error wiping old signatures from /dev/sdb2: 1 (tflink, 19:05:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887539 (tflink, 19:06:00)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:06:02)
    3. AGREED: 887539 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - While nasty, this seems like too much of a corner case to block the release of F18. It also seems too much of a corner case to take as NTH for F18 - workaround should be documented (use different hostnames, wipe disks before install) (tflink, 19:18:26)

  8. (860022) AttributeError: preconf (tflink, 19:18:31)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860022 (tflink, 19:18:34)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:18:36)
    3. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/18/final/buglist (jreznik, 19:26:59)
    4. AGREED: 860022 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be common enough to justify blocking the release of F18. It is already accepted as NTH and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:29:45)

  9. (859867) Keyboard not set in minimal install (tflink, 19:30:37)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=859867 (tflink, 19:30:38)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:30:38)
    3. the original report appears to be fixed and somewhat confused with other unrelated keymap issues. The bug will be closed but can be reopened if the original issue still exists (tflink, 19:38:15)

  10. (889044) need to disable updates-testing for final (tflink, 19:40:59)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889044 (tflink, 19:40:59)
    2. AGREED: 889044 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion: "A fedora-release package containing the correct names, information and repository configuration for a final Fedora release (as opposed to a pre-release) must be present on ISO media while the appropriately versioned generic-release package must be available in the online release repository" (tflink, 19:51:20)

  11. (881624) After Update using fedup default system keyboard changes to US (tflink, 19:51:41)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881624 (tflink, 19:51:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 19:51:46)
    3. AGREED: 881624 - Waiting for testing to confirm suspicions about this bug. If it turns out that the keymap is not correctly set after upgrade, this would be a blocker. If the systemd update fixes the issue to the point where passwords work with a non en-US keymap, it will be rejected as a blocker (tflink, 20:15:50)

  12. (889109) missing dependencies for imsettings (tflink, 20:16:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889109 (tflink, 20:16:02)
    2. Proposed Blocker, imsettings, ON_QA (tflink, 20:16:02)
    3. AGREED: 889109 - RejectedBlocker - This is a dep issue which was contained in updates-testing, has already been fixed and wouldn't affect the release of F18. (tflink, 20:18:12)

  13. (881670) Provide fedup hook to add x-systemd.device-timeout=0 to mount options for encrypted file systems that need a passphrase from the user (tflink, 20:18:17)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=881670 (tflink, 20:18:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, systemd, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:18:23)
    3. AGREED: 881670 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't seem severe enough to justify blocking the release of F18 but a tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 20:24:07)

  14. (889562) Console keymap set to "us" if you install with a keymap not provided by systemd-localed (tflink, 20:24:16)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889562 (tflink, 20:24:19)
    2. Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 20:24:22)
    3. AGREED: 889562 - AcceptedBlocker AcceptedNTH - We're missing some data here but from what we do know, this seems to affect enough locales to justify blocking release of F18 final. If it turns out to be less severe than it currently appears, it would be rejected as a blocker for F18 final (tflink, 20:53:26)

  15. (882212) localectl set-x11-keymap: variant settings does not work (tflink, 20:53:46)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212 (tflink, 20:53:49)
    2. Proposed Blocker, systemd, ON_QA (tflink, 20:53:51)
    3. AGREED: 882212 - We don't understand this nearly enough to make a call on whether this should block release - it is already accepted as NTH and might be fixed. Will revisit if it continues to be an issue (tflink, 21:09:58)

  16. (889352) [i18n] translated string not displayed in Welcome dialog: "Set keyboard to default layout for selected language." (tflink, 21:12:43)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889352 (tflink, 21:12:46)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 21:12:49)
    3. AGREED: 889352 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink, 21:14:47)

  17. (889585) should not offer to change boot disk from within custom storage spoke (tflink, 21:14:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889585 (tflink, 21:14:55)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 21:14:58)
    3. AGREED: 889585 - AcceptedNTH - Functionality to select the boot disk should work - since there is no code to do so in the custom partition spoke and the option exists elsewhere, removing it seems like a good option. A tested fix would be accepted past freeze. (tflink, 21:24:11)

  18. (888030) [i18n] some package set descriptions not translated (tflink, 21:24:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888030 (tflink, 21:24:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, comps, NEW (tflink, 21:24:20)
    3. AGREED: 888030 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't seem severe enough to block release but a tested fix would be considered past freeze. Since comps changes go through without packages, this bug can be closed. (tflink, 21:27:53)

  19. (873103) Chinese input does not work after installation (tflink, 21:36:50)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873103 (tflink, 21:36:51)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, ON_QA (tflink, 21:36:51)
    3. AGREED: 873103 - AcceptedNTH - Not a release blocking bug since it only affects one language but it can't be fixed with an update and there are lots of users who use the Chinese locales. (tflink, 21:39:12)

  20. (889366) "Don\'t install the latest available software updates. Install the default versions provided by the install source above." checkbox does nothing, media installs don\'t default to installing updates (tflink, 21:39:16)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889366 (tflink, 21:39:20)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, POST (tflink, 21:39:23)
    3. AGREED: 889366 - AcceptedNTH - This doesn't violate any F18 release criteria but features should work if they are displayed as available. (tflink, 21:41:28)

  21. (889570) Add help / instruction text for custom spoke (tflink, 21:41:40)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889570 (tflink, 21:41:41)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, POST (tflink, 21:41:41)
    3. AGREED: 889570 - AcceptedNTH - This doesn't violate any F18 release criteria but useful help messages for custom partitioning would hopefully help reduce confusion when doing custom layouts. (tflink, 21:44:10)

  22. (872851) [abrt] rhythmbox-2.98-4.fc18: Process /usr/bin/rhythmbox was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 21:44:14)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872851 (tflink, 21:44:17)
    2. Proposed NTH, pygobject3, ON_QA (tflink, 21:44:20)
    3. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690514 (adamw, 21:49:02)
    4. http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=231935 (adamw, 21:49:11)
    5. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20814/pygobject3-3.4.2-6.fc18 (nirik, 21:49:39)
    6. https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656312 (nirik, 21:50:36)
    7. http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/pygobject3.git/commit/?h=f18&id=14e44ae5618044ff20fc90d449a507384c30a7c1 (nirik, 21:55:02)
    8. AGREED: 872851 - RejectedNTH - While this bug would affect live images, the problematic plugin isn't enabled by default and the needed change is in pygobject which seems a little too risky to be changing so late. (tflink, 21:59:47)

  23. Open Floor (tflink, 22:03:23)
    1. No date set for the next blocker review meeting, will more than likely be after 2013-01-01 (tflink, 22:05:07)


Meeting ended at 22:05:27 UTC (full logs).

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