f18final-blocker-review-6
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#fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-6

Meeting started by tflink at 17:02:42 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (tflink, 17:02:42)
  2. Introduction (tflink, 17:12:21)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:12:36)
    2. We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 17:12:43)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:12:43)
    4. The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 17:12:49)
    5. http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 17:12:49)
    6. The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 17:12:55)
    7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:12:55)
    8. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:12:56)
    9. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:12:56)
    10. the current number of blocker and NTH bugs is: (tflink, 17:13:36)
    11. 17 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:13:46)
    12. 18 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 17:13:46)
    13. 31 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:13:46)
    14. 23 Accepted NTH (tflink, 17:13:46)
    15. the number of bugs that are 'ready for discussion' today are: (tflink, 17:15:04)
    16. 8 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 17:15:10)
    17. 23 Proposed NTH (tflink, 17:15:10)

  3. (877658) [i18n] some storage-related error messages not marked for translation: "Not enough free space on disks for automatic partitioning" (tflink, 17:17:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877658 (tflink, 17:17:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:18:02)
    3. AGREED: 877658 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18 final release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink, 17:21:57)

  4. (883699) Changing LV name in custom partitioning crashes installer (TypeError: Argument 2 does not allow None as a value) (tflink, 17:22:08)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883699 (tflink, 17:22:11)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:22:14)
    3. AGREED: 883699 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion when modifying any volume name in custom partitioning: " The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" (tflink, 17:27:27)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888089 (tflink, 17:28:14)
    5. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:28:14)
    6. AGREED: 883699 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 beta release criterion: "The installer's custom partitioning mode must be capable of the following ... Rejecting obviously invalid operations without crashing" (tflink, 17:31:54)

  5. (886061) 'fedora' or 'updates' repository error must be fatal, otherwise the upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink, 17:32:02)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink, 17:32:05)
    2. Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:32:07)
    3. AGREED: 886061 - RejectedBlocker - With the changes in fedup coming for F18, this bug is no longer as serious as it was and thus, does not qualify for release blocking status for F18 final (tflink, 17:37:47)

  6. (875846) [i18n] "ON" and "OFF" not translated in switches on DVD (gtk30.mo not on DVD) (tflink, 17:37:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875846 (tflink, 17:37:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, lorax, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:38:01)
    3. AGREED: 875846 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion: "All critical path actions on release-blocking desktop environments should correctly display all sufficiently complete translations available for use" (tflink, 17:43:09)

  7. (872851) [abrt] rhythmbox-2.98-4.fc18: Process /usr/bin/rhythmbox was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 17:43:19)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872851 (tflink, 17:43:22)
    2. Proposed Blocker, rhythmbox, NEW (tflink, 17:43:24)
    3. AGREED: 872851 - RejectedBlocker - While rhythmbox is a default application, this bug requires enabling of a non-default plugin and thus does not qualify for release blocking status for F18 final. (tflink, 17:46:52)

  8. (861280) KDE Crashes or Hangs After Moving Konqueror Window Quickly (tflink, 17:47:00)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861280 (tflink, 17:47:03)
    2. Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drv-nouveau, NEW (tflink, 17:47:06)
    3. AGREED: 861280 - RejectedBlocker - This is very HW limited and thus, does not qualify for release blocking status. (tflink, 17:49:59)

  9. (860022) AttributeError: preconf (tflink, 17:50:06)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860022 (tflink, 17:50:06)
    2. Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW (tflink, 17:50:06)
    3. AGREED: 860022 - AcceptedNTH - We need more information on how many repos are being used to trigger this and if the updates.img from comment#20 works before deciding on blocker status. However, this is bad enough to warrant NTH status - a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:58:13)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886647 (adamw, 17:59:38)
    5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (adamw, 17:59:45)
    6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212 (adamw, 17:59:53)

  10. (860525) dracut-pre-pivot[272]: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs, (tflink, 18:02:32)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860525 (tflink, 18:02:35)
    2. Proposed Blocker, dracut, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:02:38)
    3. AGREED: 860525 - It still isn't clear how this impacts NFS installs, need more information before deciding on blocker status (tflink, 18:11:13)

  11. (882212) localectl set-x11-keymap: variant settings does not work (tflink, 18:11:17)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882212 (tflink, 18:11:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, systemd, POST (tflink, 18:11:23)
    3. AGREED: 882212 - AcceptedNTH - This does affect upgrades with yum which aren't recommended but aren't uncommon. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:17:49)

  12. (886647) Anaconda throws exception trying to setup network if non-existing network --device is specified in kickstart (tflink, 18:18:05)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886647 (tflink, 18:18:09)
    2. Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 18:18:11)
    3. AGREED: 886647 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is too much of a corner case to take as a blocker but it can't be fixed with an update and a non-trivial number of people could hit this. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:21:33)

  13. (888107) Shell leaking memory with every interaction with the panel (tflink, 18:31:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888107 (tflink, 18:31:07)
    2. Proposed NTH, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 18:31:10)
    3. AGREED: 888107 - AcceptedNTH - This isn't quite a blocker but causes problems for lives, especially in lower memory situations. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:35:11)

  14. (830181) Logout/shutdown/restart should be inhibited while Apper is performing updates (tflink, 18:35:21)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=830181 (tflink, 18:35:24)
    2. Proposed NTH, PackageKit, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:35:26)
    3. AGREED: 830181 - RejectedNTH - Taking PK fixes this close to release is unwise and since this bug wouldn't affect live images and thus could be fixed with an update - rejected as NTH for F18 final (tflink, 18:41:52)

  15. (875567) anaconda doesnt set keyboard layout for LUKS password at reboot (tflink, 18:42:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875567 (tflink, 18:42:04)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:42:07)
    3. AGREED: 875567 - AcceptedNTH - This is borderline blocker since LUKS passwords are affected but not all installations are affected by this. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:49:57)

  16. (876916) anaconda claims I don't have enough free space when I have (tflink, 18:51:46)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876916 (tflink, 18:51:49)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:51:51)
    3. AGREED: 876916 - AcceptedNTH - This isn't critical but it would be good to have effective minimum space detection and this can't be fixed with an update. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:56:55)

  17. (882233) Chinese (Taiwan) shows Simplified Chinese instead of Traditional Chinese at left (native language view) side (tflink, 18:57:06)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882233 (tflink, 18:57:09)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:57:12)
    3. AGREED: 882233 - We would like to have more information on how bugs like this have been handled in the past - there isn't a clear universal answer which all parties would like. Will revisit when there's more info. (tflink, 19:16:13)

  18. (886463) Keyboard layout switching is confusing on LiveCD (tflink, 19:16:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886463 (tflink, 19:16:22)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:16:22)
    3. AGREED: 886463 - AcceptedNTH - Adding the warning message seems like a good idea without much risk. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:21:48)

  19. (887112) Existing Windows 7 appears under \'Unknown\' in Manual Partitioning (tflink, 19:21:55)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887112 (tflink, 19:21:58)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:22:00)
    3. AGREED: 887112 - RejectedNTH - While this might be a nice visual enhancement, it isn't a huge deal and represents a bit more risk than we'd like to see so late in the release. (tflink, 19:27:12)

  20. (888112) Yellow error display bar is incapable of wrapping long errors, they are too wide and overflow the side of the screen (tflink, 19:27:20)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888112 (tflink, 19:27:23)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, VERIFIED (tflink, 19:27:26)
    3. AGREED: 888112 - AcceptedNTH - This is a very useful visual enhancement without much risk and can't be fixed with an update. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:31:14)

  21. (888603) Custom partitioning shouldn't let you set /boot as btrfs (tflink, 19:31:24)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888603 (tflink, 19:31:27)
    2. Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:31:29)
    3. AGREED: 888603 - AcceptedNTH - This is a safety check to disallow a non-obviously invalid operation and is relatively low risk. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:33:30)

  22. (886556) missing icons in yumex & apper (tflink, 19:33:43)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886556 (tflink, 19:33:43)
    2. Proposed NTH, comps-extras, NEW (tflink, 19:33:43)
    3. AGREED: 886556 - RejectedNTH - While this is a polish issue that would be good to fix, it's late in the release and the risk of taking this fix so late is not clearly low (could affect PK, apper etc.). (tflink, 19:43:44)

  23. (855697) No way to change the language on Live (tflink, 19:44:38)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=855697 (tflink, 19:44:38)
    2. Proposed NTH, control-center, NEW (tflink, 19:44:38)
    3. AGREED: 855697 - AcceptedNTH - While there are a couple ideas in the bug, there is an available fix upstream to add a logout button to the language/region applet - a tested fix would be considered past freeze but only if it is the fix from upstream - other fixes would need to be reproposed for NTH status (tflink, 19:51:27)

  24. (873849) no keyboard shortcut for toggling keyboard layouts (tflink, 19:51:34)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873849 (tflink, 19:51:34)
    2. Proposed NTH, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (tflink, 19:51:35)
    3. AGREED: 873849 - It isn't completely clear what the fix for this might be or whether there is developer support for a fix. Will re-visit when more info is available (tflink, 19:59:59)

  25. (886077) Custom shortcut super+'char' writes the char or does nothing instead of execute demanded action (tflink, 20:00:13)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886077 (tflink, 20:00:16)
    2. Proposed NTH, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (tflink, 20:00:18)
    3. AGREED: 886077 - RejectedNTH - While this is an inconvenience, it involves setting custom actions which is unlikely to affect live images and thus can be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:08:43)

  26. (888395) 3.6.11 update for kernel (tflink, 20:08:51)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=888395 (tflink, 20:08:51)
    2. Proposed NTH, kernel, NEW (tflink, 20:08:51)
    3. AGREED: 888395 - RejectedNTH - This would only fix media sourced upgrades for a very short time and would not affect network sourced upgrades. Since there are no other critical reasons to upgrade the released kernel, rejected as NTH for F18 final. (tflink, 20:12:14)

  27. (872162) error creating partitions on LVM volume created with allocation=0 (tflink, 20:12:22)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872162 (tflink, 20:12:25)
    2. Proposed NTH, libvirt, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:12:27)
    3. AGREED: 872162 - RejectedNTH - This involves VM creation which is not likely to affect live images and isn't the default path for VM creation anyways. It could be fixed with an update and doesn't need to be pulled past freeze. (tflink, 20:16:10)

  28. (884878) FirewallConfig in imgcreate/kickstart.py requires FirewallD (tflink, 20:16:18)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884878 (tflink, 20:16:21)
    2. Proposed NTH, livecd-tools, NEW (tflink, 20:16:24)
    3. AGREED: 884878 - AcceptedNTH - Enabling spins to ship without firewalld is desirable as long as the fix isn't too bad. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 20:19:53)

  29. (821221) ibus-setup language selection entries shadowed out (tflink, 20:20:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821221 (tflink, 20:20:01)
    2. Proposed NTH, oxygen-gtk3, NEW (tflink, 20:20:01)
    3. AGREED: 821221 - RejectedNTH - There appear to be no extra IMEs on the KDE live media and thus, this would not affect lives and could be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:35:58)

  30. (875430) After installing unable to boot Fedora 18 with virtio-scsi after successfully installing using virtio-scsi driver (have to use virtio-blk to boot) (tflink, 20:36:08)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875430 (tflink, 20:36:11)
    2. Proposed NTH, qemu, NEW (tflink, 20:36:14)
    3. AGREED: 875430 - AcceptedNTH - Allowing non-primary storage drivers in a VM would be preferred and a relatively small, tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 20:41:29)

  31. (886208) systemd should mount efivarfs by default on UEFI machines (tflink, 20:41:37)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886208 (tflink, 20:41:40)
    2. Proposed NTH, systemd, NEW (tflink, 20:41:43)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886199 (tflink, 20:48:07)
    4. AGREED: 886208 - RejectedNTH - This wouldn't affect the released version of F18 since it's for personal/private signing of shim and could be fixed with an update. (tflink, 20:52:16)

  32. (879922) Fails to open from the Xfce menu. (tflink, 20:56:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=879922 (tflink, 20:56:04)
    2. Proposed NTH, xfce4-panel, NEW (tflink, 20:56:04)
    3. AGREED: 879922 - AcceptedNTH - Prevents system-config-date from working on XFCE which is the default date config mechanism for XFCE. (tflink, 21:02:52)

  33. (849347) radeon driver cannot handle restarting xorg server sometimes (fails with: *ERROR* Failed to parse relocation -35!) (tflink, 21:03:01)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=849347 (tflink, 21:03:04)
    2. Proposed NTH, xorg-x11-drv-ati, NEW (tflink, 21:03:06)
    3. AGREED: 849347 - RejectedNTH - This seems rather limited in the HW affected and doesn't happen all of the time - it's too late in the release process to be taking non-showstopper bugs for F18. (tflink, 21:07:10)

  34. (816073, 820154, 816389, 884274) rdma and srptools for F18 (tflink, 21:10:00)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816073 (tflink, 21:10:00)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820154 (tflink, 21:10:00)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816389 (tflink, 21:10:00)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884274 (tflink, 21:10:00)
    5. Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 21:10:06)
    6. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InfiniBand for idiot monkeys (adamw, 21:12:25)
    7. AGREED: 816073, 820154, 816389, 884274 - AcceptedNTH - Due to the nature of these changes, they cannot be pushed post-release due to updates policy, are unlikely to break anything else and contain security fixes. Builds would be considered past freeze if they had enough karma. (tflink, 21:17:27)

  35. next review meeting (tflink, 21:18:28)
    1. the next blocker/nth review meeting will be scheduled as needed - maybe tomorrow or friday (tflink, 21:20:55)

  36. (882976) Pixman/Cairo leaks like crazy (tflink, 21:22:00)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=882976 (tflink, 21:22:00)
    2. Proposed NTH, pixman, MODIFIED (tflink, 21:22:00)
    3. AGREED: 882976 - AcceptedNTH - Memory leaks are bad and this could affect live images, making it not possible to fix with an update in all cases. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 21:24:13)

  37. Open Floor (tflink, 21:24:44)


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