============================================= #fedora-bugzappers: f18final-blocker-review-5 ============================================= Meeting started by tflink at 16:40:43 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-12-17/f18final-blocker-review-5.2012-12-17-16.40.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:40:44) * Introduction (tflink, 16:46:53) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:46:58) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:47:04) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:47:05) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:47:10) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:47:10) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:47:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:47:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:47:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:47:17) * 22 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:47:58) * 12 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:47:58) * 38 Proposed NTH (tflink, 16:47:58) * 9 Accepted NTH (tflink, 16:47:58) * 13 Proposed Blockers marked Ready for Discussion (tflink, 16:47:59) * (883075) fedup upgrading is too quiet (tflink, 16:49:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883075 (tflink, 16:49:38) * Proposed Blocker, fedup-dracut, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:49:38) * AGREED: 883075 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criteria in spirit due to lack of user-facing progress information: "For each one of the release-blocking package sets, it must be possible to successfully complete an upgrade from a fully updated installation of the previous stable Fedora release with that package set installed, using all officially recommended upgrade mechanisms..." (tflink, 16:54:00) * (887236) UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe6 in position 3: ordinal not in range(128) (tflink, 16:54:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887236 (tflink, 16:54:09) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:54:12) * AGREED: 887236 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion for several well-used non-english languages: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using all supported interfaces" (tflink, 16:57:58) * (886502) create grub.cfg even when not installing bootloader (tflink, 16:58:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886502 (tflink, 16:58:04) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:58:07) * AGREED: 886502 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't clearly violate any F18 release criteria but it would help multibooters if we generate the config during install w/o bootloader and this can't be fixed with a post-release update. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:03:02) * (869841) attempts to resize ufs partitions (tflink, 17:03:08) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869841 (tflink, 17:03:08) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:03:08) * LINK: http://www.fpaste.org/tRNH/raw/ (fenrus02, 17:07:47) * AGREED: 869841 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - While this is a technical violation of the release criteria, it seems to be a bit too much of a corner case to justify blocking release for. However, it can't be fixed with an update post-release and a tested fix would be considered past freeze (tflink, 17:30:39) * (875944) Shrink function in 'Reclaim space' dialog does not allow user to specify target size, automatically picks smallest possible size (tflink, 17:30:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875944 (tflink, 17:30:55) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:36:28) * AGREED: 875944 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criteria by making other installed OSs so small, they are practically unusable after a relatively short time: "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an existing clean single-partition Windows installation and either install a bootloader which can boot into the Windows installation, or leave the Windows bootloader untouched and working" (tflink, 17:37:49) * (885385) Strange race in livecd creation (tflink, 17:40:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885385 (tflink, 17:40:28) * Proposed Blocker, livecd-tools, ON_QA (tflink, 17:40:28) * AGREED: 885385 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't cause compose failures every time and thus isn't enough to block release. However, getting reliable composes is important and a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 17:46:58) * (886647) Anaconda throws exception trying to setup network (tflink, 17:47:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886647 (tflink, 17:47:04) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 17:47:06) * AGREED: 886647 - While potentially serious, there is not currently enough information to make a decision on blocker status. Will revisit when more information is available. (tflink, 17:52:23) * (886061) core fedora repository error must be fatal, otherwise the upgraded system might be broken heavily (tflink, 17:52:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886061 (tflink, 17:52:35) * Proposed Blocker, fedup, NEW (tflink, 17:52:37) * (886705) live cd should include qemu-guest-agent package (tflink, 18:13:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886705 (tflink, 18:13:20) * Proposed Blocker, spin-kickstarts, NEW (tflink, 18:13:20) * AGREED: 886705 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't clearly violate any of the F18 release criteria and thus is rejected as a blocker. However, the livecd cannot be updated post-release so a tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 18:26:46) * (887363) cloud-init 0.7.1 change prevents creation of ec2-user (tflink, 18:27:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887363 (tflink, 18:27:16) * Proposed Blocker, cloud-init, ON_QA (tflink, 18:27:16) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/cloud/2012-December/002038.html (nirik, 18:30:15) * AGREED: 887363 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18 final release criterion for EC2 images: "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" (tflink, 18:36:17) * (887539) FormatDestroyError: error wiping old signatures from /dev/sdb2: 1 (tflink, 18:36:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887539 (tflink, 18:36:27) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:36:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876789 is the other bug (adamw, 18:38:59) * AGREED: 887539 - We need more information on whether this is a dupe of #876789 before making a decision on blocker status. will re-visit later (tflink, 18:44:00) * (885912) Resize of NTFS partition results in partition smaller than the filesystem, broken Windows install (tflink, 18:44:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885912 (tflink, 18:44:14) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 18:44:16) * AGREED: 885912 - AcceptedBlocker - Violation of the following F18 release criterion: "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or documented at Common F18 bugs" (tflink, 18:52:18) * (887357) workaround for for appliance creation in koji (tflink, 18:52:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887357 (tflink, 18:52:28) * Proposed Blocker, device-mapper-multipath, ASSIGNED (tflink, 18:52:28) * AGREED: 887357 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F18 final release criterion by blocking the creation of cloud images: "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" (tflink, 18:55:46) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-20266/marble-4.9.4-2.fc18 (nirik, 19:00:25) * (886329) fedmsg-0.6.3 is a broken dependency. (tflink, 19:01:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886329 (tflink, 19:01:50) * Proposed NTH, fedmsg, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:01:50) * AGREED: 886329 - AcceptedNTH - There is a desire to release a final frozen repo without dep issues, even if they don't affect the F18 media. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:09:01) * (887990) 1:python-marble-4.9.4-1.fc18.x86_64 requires sip-api(8) >= 0:8.1 (tflink, 19:10:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887990 (tflink, 19:10:34) * Proposed NTH, marble, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:10:37) * AGREED: 887990 - AcceptedNTH - There is a desire to release a final frozen repo without dep issues, even if they don't affect the F18 media. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:11:07) * (874378) firewalld caused minimal install to grow substantially between Alpha and Beta TC7: firewalld deps are pretty heavy (tflink, 19:15:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=874378 (tflink, 19:15:20) * Proposed NTH, firewalld, ON_QA (tflink, 19:15:22) * AGREED: 874378 - AcceptedNTH - This reduces the dependencies on a minimal install so that cairo and X aren't pulled in for firewalld as requested by FESCo (tflink, 19:22:58) * (885541) Renew-Subscription spam in /var/log/cups/access_log (tflink, 19:23:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=885541 (tflink, 19:23:11) * Proposed NTH, kde-print-manager, ON_QA (tflink, 19:23:11) * AGREED: 885541 - AcceptedNTH - This is spamming logs on the KDE live image which could cause problems with overlays or ramdisks. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:26:34) * (886734) Obsolete subpackage system-config-printer-kde in the F18 repository (tflink, 19:26:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886734 (tflink, 19:26:47) * Proposed NTH, kdeadmin, ON_QA (tflink, 19:26:49) * (872468) Thai font missing from installer environment (tflink, 19:30:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=872468 (tflink, 19:30:13) * Proposed NTH, lorax, ON_QA (tflink, 19:30:13) * AGREED: 872468 - AcceptedNTH - It's not good form to break a language in the installer. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:31:58) * (886733) live images built with livecd-creator 18.13 have major SELinux problems (SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/colord from 'write' accesses on the directory colord.) (tflink, 19:32:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886733 (tflink, 19:32:10) * Proposed NTH, selinux-policy, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:32:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886187 is also proposed as NTH (adamw, 19:37:26) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=873355 relates to xen (adamw, 19:39:23) * AGREED: 886733 - AcceptedNTH - while not absolutely critical, it would make a positive difference in the livecds and is not entirely fixable post-release. A tested fix would be considered past freeze. (tflink, 19:39:39) * Oversize issues for secondary DE spins (tflink, 19:40:34) * Covers 887120 , 887991 , 853590 (tflink, 19:40:54) * AGREED: In principle, we agree that oversize issues for secondary DE spins are accepted as NTH without explicit discussion for F18 (tflink, 19:42:58) * (887996) liveinst fails in f18 Soas TC3 Could not open x display - no protocol specified (tflink, 19:44:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=887996 (tflink, 19:44:19) * Proposed NTH, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 19:44:21) * AGREED: 887996 - AcceptedNTH - This breaks install of SoaS which, as a secondary DE, is a NTH issue for F18 final. (tflink, 19:46:42) * (877128) Ocaml tries to allocate a ridiculous amount of memory (tflink, 19:51:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877128 (tflink, 19:51:56) * ProposedNTH, ocaml, ON_QA (tflink, 19:51:56) * AGREED: 877128 - We're not quite sure why this has to be fixed before release, will re-visit when there is more justification available (tflink, 20:04:34) * Open Floor (tflink, 20:04:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886963 (adamw, 20:05:54) * (886963) Update eucalyptus to 3.2 (tflink, 20:10:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=886963 (tflink, 20:10:14) * Proposed NTH, eucalyptus, ON_QA (tflink, 20:10:14) * AGREED: 886963 - RejectedNTH - While the packaging bug mentioned here would be enough for NTH, it would need to be separated out by itself instead of as part of a version upgrade for multiple components. Would re-consider for a separated out fix (tflink, 20:15:52) * Open Floor (tflink, 20:15:59) * Next blocker/NTH review meeting will be tomorrow, 2012-12-18 at 17:00 UTC (tflink, 20:17:18) Meeting ended at 20:18:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (368) * adamw (260) * nirik (99) * cmurf (79) * kparal (71) * jreznik (60) * bugbot_ (33) * fenrus02 (23) * agrimm (14) * jsmith (11) * mkrizek (10) * zodbot (9) * nanonyme (5) * pschindl (3) * rdieter (1) * satellit (1) * satellit_e (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot