f17-final-blocker-review-2
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#fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-review-2

Meeting started by tflink at 17:01:45 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (tflink, 17:01:56)
    1. Not enough attendees for quorum (tflink, 17:23:32)
    2. Rescheduling again for 2012-05-02 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 17:23:52)

  2. Introduction (tflink, 17:29:46)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:29:56)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:30:14)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:30:34)
    4. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:30:51)
    5. 25 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:31:14)
    6. 11 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:31:14)
    7. 10 proposed blockers (tflink, 17:31:14)

  3. (816509) 'Updates' notification not showing up in Gnome (F17 TC1) (tflink, 17:31:48)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816509 (tflink, 17:31:51)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:31:54)
    3. AGREED: - 816509 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 beta release criterion "The default update manager in release-blocking desktops must not periodically check for updates when the system is booted live, but must periodically check for updates when running on an installed system" (tflink, 17:37:25)

  4. (806166) Installation using DVD ISO dd'd to USB can't use USB as installation source (tflink, 17:45:44)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=806166 (tflink, 17:45:47)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:45:50)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816410 this ne is fr uefi (akshayvyas, 17:57:31)
    4. AGREED: - 806166 - AcceptedBlocker - Conditional violation of the F17 final release criterion "The installer must be able to use all supported local and remote package source options" for USB media created with dd - Since dd is the only currently supported method for USB install media creation for non-fedora linux and OSX, judged to be a blocker (tflink, 18:00:31)

  5. (815827) Connection to root iSCSI disk is disrupted during boot (tflink, 18:00:57)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815827 (tflink, 18:01:00)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:01:02)
    3. AGREED: - 815827 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release criterion "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any network-attached storage devices (e.g. iSCSI, FCoE, Fibre Channel)" (tflink, 18:03:06)

  6. (816238) upgrade using boot.iso destroys EFI boot (tflink, 18:04:21)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816238 (tflink, 18:04:21)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:04:21)
    3. AGREED: - 816238 - This appears to be a blocker but more testing is needed before we can come to a decision - Does this affect 16 to 17 upgrades and are the claimed missing tools actually missing? Ask for more info/testing and will revisit at next meeting. (tflink, 18:24:31)

  7. (815748) Network time can't be enabled (tflink, 18:30:30)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815748 (tflink, 18:30:30)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 18:30:30)
    3. AGREED: - 815748 - It sounds like the issue could be fixed with an update but this needs testing with the systemd/ntp/chrony updates before a decision is made. Unless updates can't fix the issue, will reject as a blocker for F17 final as it isn't a clear violation of the F17 final release criteria (tflink, 19:07:05)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817889 (cmurf, 19:11:09)

  8. (817889) boot menu lacks a memory test option when booting EFI computers (tflink, 19:11:26)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817889 (tflink, 19:11:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:11:32)
    3. AGREED: - 817889 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release criterion "All release media must include a standalone memory test utility. A boot menu option to launch this utility must be present and must work correctly." (tflink, 19:14:30)
    4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=804846 (cmurf, 19:15:30)

  9. (816867) Kickstarting with nfs repo as installation source fails: no suitable images (tflink, 19:15:30)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816867 (tflink, 19:15:33)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:15:35)
    3. AGREED: - 816867 - We need more information before deciding whether or not this is a blocker - is a _complete_ repo (with images etc.) being used? (tflink, 19:43:47)

  10. (799667) [abrt] gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.90.1-1.fc17: g_logv: Process /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) (tflink, 19:45:30)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799667 (tflink, 19:45:33)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:45:35)
    3. AGREED: - 799667 - Still no response from devs, no new reports for a while. If there are no new reports on this bug by next week - will assume that the hardware is not incredibly common and will reject as a blocker (tflink, 20:00:30)

  11. (815360) X crashes when switching users (tflink, 20:10:28)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815360 (tflink, 20:10:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 20:10:29)
    3. AGREED: - 815360 - RejectedBlocker - This seems to be specific to VMs and the qxl driver - it could be fixed with an update and doesn't clearly hit any of the F17 release criteria. (tflink, 20:11:51)

  12. Open Floor (tflink, 20:13:19)
    1. The list isn't fully reviewed but 3 hours is enough for one day (tflink, 20:13:27)
    2. May have another blocker review meeting before friday (tflink, 20:13:33)
    3. ACTION: tflink to translate meeting agreements into bugzilla (tflink, 20:13:42)


Meeting ended at 20:23:27 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. tflink to translate meeting agreements into bugzilla


Action items, by person

  1. tflink
    1. tflink to translate meeting agreements into bugzilla


People present (lines said)

  1. tflink (322)
  2. cmurf (200)
  3. cpuobsessed (125)
  4. akshayvyas (44)
  5. bcl (11)
  6. zodbot (11)
  7. jsmith (11)
  8. kalev (2)


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