fedora_16_final_blocker_review_meeting_1
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#fedora-bugzappers: F16-blocker-review-1

Meeting started by tflink at 17:03:38 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. roll call (tflink, 17:04:00)
  2. Background Information (tflink, 17:11:52)
    1. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:12:05)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:12:22)

  3. (736268) [abrt] GConf2-3.1.90-1.fc16: Process /usr/bin/gsettings-data-convert was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) (tflink, 17:14:00)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736268 (tflink, 17:14:04)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:14:10)
    3. AGREED: - 736268 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 16 final release criteria: "In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC: denied' messages or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and subsequent login" (tflink, 17:20:23)

  4. (739836) NetworkManager makes reboot take several minutes (tflink, 17:20:34)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739836 (tflink, 17:20:44)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:20:46)
    3. AGREED: - 739836 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria since the machine does still shut down. However, delayed shutdown is an annoyance and would be nice to have fixed (tflink, 17:23:52)

  5. (731266) TypeError: must be string, not None (tflink, 17:24:05)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731266 (tflink, 17:24:05)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:24:05)
    3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_16_Final_Release_Criteria (brunowolff, 17:24:36)
    4. AGREED: - 731266 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug intereferes with the final test case "NFSISO install variation" and violates the final critera "The installer must be able to use all supported local and remote package source options" (tflink, 17:27:52)

  6. (733425) anaconda sets hostname to localhost.localdomain (tflink, 17:28:24)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=733425 (tflink, 17:28:24)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:28:24)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706073 (tflink, 17:30:35)
    4. AGREED: - 733425 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This is a somewhat obscure kickstart issue that doesn't hit any of the release criteria. However, it sounds like a fix is under way and it would be nice to see fixed. (tflink, 17:33:54)

  7. (739828) filtering screen shows loop devices (tflink, 17:34:13)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739828 (tflink, 17:34:13)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 17:34:13)
    3. AGREED: - 739828 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit any release criteria, only shows up with advanced storage devices and doesn't prevent installation. It can't be fixed post-release and looks bad to have in the installer. (tflink, 17:40:16)

  8. (740062) fcoe.py fails to detect FCoE NIC due to extraneous newline character (tflink, 17:40:26)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740062 (tflink, 17:40:29)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 17:40:32)
    3. AGREED: - 740062 - Violates the fedora 16 final release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any network-attached storage devices (e.g. iSCSI, FCoE, Fibre Channel)" (tflink, 17:44:20)

  9. (741199) BOOTPROTO missing in ifcfg-eth0 in minimal install (tflink, 17:44:35)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741199 (tflink, 17:44:35)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:44:35)
    3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=498207 (tflink, 17:48:21)
    4. AGREED: - 741199 - RejectedBlocker proposed NTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria and there isn't quite enough information to determine NTH, will re-visit at next meeting and ask for more info in bug. (tflink, 17:54:19)

  10. (741817) DispatchError: Can not reschedule step 'bootloader' from 'skipped' to 'requested' (tflink, 17:54:34)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741817 (tflink, 17:54:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:54:39)
    3. AGREED: - 741817 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 16 beta criteria "The installer must boot and run on systems using EFI other than Apple Macs" (tflink, 17:58:27)

  11. (742123) DispatchError: Can not reschedule step 'group-selection' from 'requested' to 'skipped' (tflink, 17:58:42)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742123 (tflink, 17:58:45)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 17:58:48)
    3. AGREED: - 742123 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't clearly hit any release criteria but it would likely hit any ks installation w/ interactive package selection (tflink, 18:05:26)

  12. (740625) After update to 3.1.92, can't submit password on login window (tflink, 18:05:34)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740625 (tflink, 18:05:37)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:05:40)
    3. AGREED: - 740625 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 16 alpha criteria: "Following on from the previous criterion, after firstboot is completed and on subsequent boots, a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to a working graphical environment without unintended user intervention. This includes correctly accessing any encrypted (tflink, 18:10:16)

  13. (706756) No translation on Login-Page of the reboot-menu (tflink, 18:10:23)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=706756 (tflink, 18:10:25)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:10:28)
    3. AGREED: - 705756 - AcceptedNTH - There aren't any criteria for translations at this time but there probably should be. Will propose translation criteria and re-visit next week. (tflink, 18:15:08)

  14. (738092) swell-foop blank screen (tflink, 18:15:12)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738092 (tflink, 18:15:14)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:15:17)
    3. AGREED: - 738092 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the Fedora 16 final release criteria: "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 18:18:05)

  15. (730985) Customizing panel objects / layout with 'Alt + Right Click' not working (tflink, 18:18:17)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=730985 (tflink, 18:18:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:18:22)
    3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_desktop_panel_basic (tflink, 18:23:30)
    4. AGREED: - 730985 - AcceptedBlocker - Interferes with the "Testcase_desktop_panel_basic" testcase and hits the beta criteria "No part of any release-blocking desktop's panel (or equivalent) configuration should crash or be entirely non-functional on boot of the installed system using default installation choices". Suspect that this has been fixed, ask for re-test in bug. (tflink, 18:27:09)

  16. (731251) SELinux is preventing /bin/bash from 'getattr' accesses on the archivo /lib/systemd/system/chronyd.service. (tflink, 18:27:17)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731251 (tflink, 18:27:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:27:23)
    3. AGREED: - 731251 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - Doesn't hit any of the release criteria but would be nice to see fixed. There should be a fix available, needs testing (tflink, 18:35:14)

  17. (735273) Command <grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg> finds Windows partition, adds to grub menu, but menu entry will not boot (tflink, 18:35:29)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735273 (tflink, 18:35:32)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:35:34)
    3. AGREED: - 735273 - Ask for more testing in an attempt to reproduce, revisit next week and reject if no reproducers (tflink, 18:46:56)

  18. (737339) Default timeouts are too long (tflink, 18:47:08)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737339 (tflink, 18:47:09)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:47:09)
    3. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13118 (adamw, 18:49:50)
    4. AGREED: - 737339 - DUPLICATE of 727831 (tflink, 18:50:48)

  19. (738977) grub2 defaults to boot "saved" seems wrong (tflink, 18:51:05)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738977 (tflink, 18:51:05)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:51:05)
    3. AGREED: - 738977 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't clearly hit any release criteria, hasn't been seen elsewhere and could be fixed with an update (tflink, 18:55:09)

  20. (742226) /sbin/grub2-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/nvidia_cjfffajep2 (tflink, 18:55:17)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=742226 (tflink, 18:55:20)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:55:23)
    3. AGREED: - 742226 - We need information before taking action on this bug, the exact issue and potential resolution still aren't clear (tflink, 18:59:52)

  21. (704244) Add info about BIOS boot partition on non-EFI x86 (tflink, 19:00:00)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704244 (tflink, 19:00:00)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:00:00)
    3. AGREED: - 704244 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - Documentation doesn't hit any of the release criteria but this should be fixed before release. (tflink, 19:06:11)

  22. (676488) update showing Error message ??? instead of actual error message (tflink, 19:06:21)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=676488 (tflink, 19:06:24)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:06:27)
    3. AGREED: - 676488 - AcceptedNTH - We don't have any i18n criteria right now, will be proposing in the next week and will re-visit then. (tflink, 19:08:50)

  23. (727068) System fails to boot with selinux=0 :: mount failed for selinuxfs on /sys/fs/selinux (tflink, 19:08:58)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=727068 (tflink, 19:09:01)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:09:04)
    3. AGREED: - 727068 - RejectedBlocker RejectedNTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria and there are plenty of easy workarounds (tflink, 19:13:51)

  24. (741950) F16: Can't use keyboard when installing F16-Alpha under Xen (regression) as guest (tflink, 19:14:04)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741950 (tflink, 19:14:07)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:14:10)
    3. AGREED: - 741950 - We still haven't finished hashing out the Xen release requirements, will refresh that discussion and re-visit this bug later (tflink, 19:21:06)

  25. (741655) can't boot with encrypted logical volume inside encrypted volume group (tflink, 19:21:15)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741655 (tflink, 19:21:18)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:21:21)
    3. AGREED: - 741655 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This does come close to hitting the Fedora 16 final release criteria: "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system offered in a default installer configuration, LVM, software, hardware or BIOS RAID, or combination of the above" but with the encryption scheme here, it doesn't squarely hit. However, it would be nice to have this boot or get a w (tflink, 19:27:37)

  26. (726979) kwrite crashes in "Configure editor" (under some conditions) (tflink, 19:28:07)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=726979 (tflink, 19:28:10)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ASSIGNED (tflink, 19:28:13)
    3. AGREED: - 726979 - AcceptedBlocker - Hits the following Fedora 16 final release criteria: "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:30:38)

  27. (723709) FTBFS: qt-mobility against qt-4.8.0-beta1 (tflink, 19:30:48)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=723709 (tflink, 19:30:48)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 19:30:48)
    3. AGREED: - 723709 - Need more information on how this bug is a blocker before making a decision, will re-visit (tflink, 19:33:51)

  28. (728857) virtuoso-opensource: encoding error with KDE NEPOMUK. (tflink, 19:33:58)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=728857 (tflink, 19:33:58)
    2. Proposed Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 19:33:58)
    3. AGREED: - 728857 - AcceptedBlocker - Hits the following Fedora 16 final release criterion: "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:37:59)

  29. (731245) KDE fails to start inside a VM , large amount of memory [@ miCopyRegion] (tflink, 19:38:48)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=731245 (tflink, 19:38:52)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:38:54)
    3. AGREED: - 731245 - AcceptedBlocker - Hits the following Fedora 16 beta release criteria: "The release must boot successfully as a virtual guest in a situation where the virtual host is running the previous stable Fedora release (using Fedora's current preferred virtualization technology)" (tflink, 19:42:46)

  30. (725219) anaconda should run in clone not span mode (tflink, 19:42:59)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725219 (tflink, 19:42:59)
    2. Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:42:59)
    3. AGREED: - 725219 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria and the workaround is simple (unplug one monitor) but it would be nice to fix. (tflink, 19:46:25)

  31. (734967) /sbin/loader received SIGSEGV when using kickstart file. (tflink, 19:48:50)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=734967 (tflink, 19:48:53)
    2. Proposed NTH, POST (tflink, 19:48:55)
    3. AGREED: - 734967 - AcceptedNTH - This fixes an anaconda crash and a fix is ready. (tflink, 19:51:30)

  32. (738607) sshd doesn't work (tflink, 19:51:43)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738607 (tflink, 19:51:43)
    2. Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 19:51:43)
    3. AGREED: - 738607 - RejectedNTH - This is more of an RFE than a bug and not something that really needs to be taken during code freeze (tflink, 19:54:37)

  33. (739861) move the fedora logo to the left (tflink, 19:54:43)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739861 (tflink, 19:54:43)
    2. Proposed NTH, POST (tflink, 19:54:43)
    3. AGREED: - 739861 - RejectedNTH - This is an artwork change that may not be something we want to take past code freeze (tflink, 20:01:59)

  34. (741446) Can't log in after Lock screen (tflink, 20:02:06)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741446 (tflink, 20:02:06)
    2. Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 20:02:06)
    3. AGREED: - 741446 - AcceptedNTH - This is a huge pain for anyone who has a password in a non-english layout even though it doesn't directly hit any release criteria (tflink, 20:06:07)

  35. (741375) default ACPI behavior makes it impossible to cleanly shutdown F16 guest from the host (tflink, 20:06:19)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=741375 (tflink, 20:06:22)
    2. Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 20:06:25)
    3. AGREED: - 741375 - RejectedNTH - This doesn't seem like something that should be taken past code freeze and could be fixed with updates post-release (tflink, 20:10:02)

  36. (678453) Grub2 Menu entries doesn't contain the name of distribution (tflink, 20:10:06)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=678453 (tflink, 20:10:09)
    2. Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 20:10:11)
    3. AGREED: - 678453 - RejectedNTH - This is a cosmetic RFE that we probably wouldn't take past freeze (tflink, 20:18:33)

  37. (711489) atl1c: transmit queue timeout (Acer Aspire One 522) (tflink, 20:18:47)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=711489 (tflink, 20:18:47)
    2. Proposed NTH, ASSIGNED (tflink, 20:18:47)
    3. AGREED: - 711489 - AcceptedNTH - This bug is ugly but it affects a small subset of hardware (tflink, 20:22:43)

  38. (739334) Adjust service disabling for systemd, and remove some dead wood (tflink, 20:22:53)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739334 (tflink, 20:22:57)
    2. Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 20:22:59)
    3. AGREED: - 739334 - RejectedNTH - If the spin kickstarts are working at freeze, leave them alone. If an issue is found, re-propose this or the found issue as a blocker (tflink, 20:29:44)

  39. open discussion (tflink, 20:36:31)
    1. Fedora 16 final blocker bug review meeting #2 will be 2011-10-07 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 20:38:06)


Meeting ended at 20:39:53 UTC (full logs).

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