f16-beta-blocker-review
MINUTES

#fedora-bugzappers: F16-blocker-review

Meeting started by tflink at 17:00:50 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. rollcall (tflink, 17:01:07)
  2. why are we here? (tflink, 17:05:57)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:06:10)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:06:36)
    3. Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:07:06)

  3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736793 (tflink, 17:08:03)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=736793 (tflink, 17:08:07)
    2. gdm 3.1.90-1 No way to reboot or shutdown system from gdm (tflink, 17:08:17)
    3. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 (tflink, 17:08:59)
    4. agreed that the beta release critera are a bit too strict, should be modified such that this isn't a bug (tflink, 17:27:07)
    5. the release criteria could be reworded to say there needs to be a working way to shut gracefully using a gui interface. So if you can shutdown from either gdm or gnome (for desktop spin) things are good enough for beta. (tflink, 17:28:23)
    6. AGREED: - 736793 - RejectedBlocker - This bug does hit the release criteria but the fix involves pulling in a new version of shell and other packages - too big to retest this late. This will be fixed by final (tflink, 17:29:00)

  4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737532 (tflink, 17:29:56)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737532 (tflink, 17:30:00)
    2. FormatDestroyError: error wiping old signatures from /dev/sda-1: 1 (tflink, 17:30:09)
    3. AGREED: - 737532 - AcceptedNTH - This is a fix for a bug that came out of another NTH, would be nice to have fixed for beta (tflink, 17:31:46)

  5. Unable to make system bootable due to bootloader choice (tflink, 17:32:52)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738964 (tflink, 17:33:01)
    2. needs testing with http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.6.img (tflink, 17:34:11)
    3. there is an alternative update available that doesn't use quite so big of a hammer - http://dlehman.fedorapeople.org/updates-738964.6.img (tflink, 17:35:16)
    4. there are patches on anaconda-devel@ that should be built in to today, no problems expected in getting a new build (tflink, 17:36:33)

  6. (739746) dhcp / bind mismatch on f15 to f16 upgrade: no network (tflink, 17:37:34)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739746 (tflink, 17:37:40)
    2. builds are available, need more testing and karma (tflink, 17:37:56)

  7. (739253) - unable to shut down from gdm greeter (tflink, 17:38:43)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=739253 (tflink, 17:38:49)
    2. this particular bug could be fixed by pulling in gdm-3.1.92 only without the rest of that update (tflink, 17:45:41)
    3. gnome-shell still wouldn't have PM options @ gdm greeter, but what is there would work (tflink, 17:46:03)
    4. pulling in gdm-3.1.92 needs more testing to verify that it can be pulled in alone (tflink, 17:48:46)
    5. AGREED: - 739253 - Assuming that it can be pulled in by itself, pulling in gdm-3.1.92 alone sounds like a reasonable solution to fix this particular bug even though it won't touch 736793. This needs to be tested more before pulling it in to beta release, though (tflink, 17:50:40)

  8. (738735) repoclosure failure for 16-Beta.RC1 DVD (tflink, 17:51:11)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=738735 (tflink, 17:51:17)
    2. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2011-13116 (tflink, 17:52:27)
    3. digikam was recently pushed to stable (tflink, 17:52:42)
    4. this bug should be fixed @ next compose (tflink, 17:52:51)
    5. AGREED: - 738735 - Need to confirm fixed in RC2 and close (tflink, 17:53:54)

  9. (737731) Bootloader is left in F15 configuration when preupgrading to F16 (tflink, 17:54:04)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731 (tflink, 17:54:14)
    2. fix for this will be in F15's preupgrade (tflink, 17:54:46)
    3. since fix for 737731 is in F15, it isn't blocking compose (tflink, 17:55:43)
    4. proposed solution in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=737731#c13 (tflink, 17:56:36)

  10. (735866) boot hangs with udevadm settle - timeout of 120 seconds (tflink, 17:59:09)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=735866 (tflink, 17:59:15)
    2. AGREED: - 735866 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedNTH - This has turned out to be a little less common and severe than we originally thought. If it turns out to be a bigger issue, re-propose as blocker (tflink, 18:04:41)

  11. open floor (tflink, 18:05:21)
    1. ACTION: tflink or adamw send out request for testing BOTH of the updates for 738964, explaining why there are 2 updates and what we're looking for in testing and data for feedback (tflink, 18:07:26)
    2. digikam update for 738735 had issues with pushing for stable, it has been fixed and should show up with the next push to stable (tflink, 18:08:25)
    3. next blocker meeting (if needed) will be 2011-09-30 @ 17:00 UTC (tflink, 18:09:31)


Meeting ended at 18:10:53 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. tflink or adamw send out request for testing BOTH of the updates for 738964, explaining why there are 2 updates and what we're looking for in testing and data for feedback


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. tflink or adamw send out request for testing BOTH of the updates for 738964, explaining why there are 2 updates and what we're looking for in testing and data for feedback
  2. tflink
    1. tflink or adamw send out request for testing BOTH of the updates for 738964, explaining why there are 2 updates and what we're looking for in testing and data for feedback


People present (lines said)

  1. tflink (157)
  2. jdulaney (41)
  3. adamw (39)
  4. nirik (24)
  5. brunowolff (19)
  6. buggbot (15)
  7. jsmith (10)
  8. zodbot (5)
  9. fenrus02 (2)
  10. clumens (2)


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