f-13-blocker-review
MINUTES

#fedora-bugzappers: F13Blocker Review

Meeting started by jlaska at 16:00:03 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Gathering critical mass (jlaska, 16:00:19)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=507681&hide_resolved=1 (jlaska, 16:05:29)

  2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587698 (jlaska, 16:10:11)
    1. # All Applications listed in the desktop menus must have icons which have a consistent appearance and sufficiently high resolution to not appear blurry (jlaska, 16:12:41)
    2. AGREED: 587698 affects desktop icon consistency criteria, is a valid release blocker (jlaska, 16:15:58)

  3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=534066 (jlaska, 16:23:23)
    1. AGREED: 534066 status unchanged since last week, still with anaconda team to provide a fix (jlaska, 16:24:25)

  4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=504986 (jlaska, 16:25:53)
    1. AGREED: 504986 is a valid blocker, anaconda team to investigate + fix (jlaska, 16:26:39)
    2. No changes from last week, waiting on problem determination and fix (jlaska, 16:30:27)
    3. still assigned to anaconda-maint-list@ ... needs a person? (jlaska, 16:30:44)

  5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=531629 (jlaska, 16:30:48)
    1. AGREED: 531629 remains a blocker, with anaconda team for action (jlaska, 16:31:16)
    2. appears to be fixed in anaconda-13.37-1 and ready for retest (jlaska, 16:34:38)

  6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569469 (jlaska, 16:37:12)
    1. testing of 569469 is still inprogress (jlaska, 16:39:12)
    2. ACTION: jlaska to retest 569469. If problem resolved, remove from F13Blocker (jlaska, 16:40:18)

  7. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571900 (jlaska, 16:41:18)
    1. AGREED: 571900 is a valid release blocker with no reasonable workaround (jlaska, 16:48:48)

  8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568528 (jlaska, 16:49:17)
    1. HELP: Karma feedback needed on system-config-firewall - http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/system-config-firewall-1.2.25-1.fc13 (jlaska, 16:50:44)
    2. AGREED: 568528 a valid release blocker, s-c-firewall fix is in, waiting on anaconda change to support new option (jlaska, 16:55:27)

  9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=579515 (jlaska, 16:57:10)
    1. adamw pinged this issue last week, reminding maintainer a new package is needed for F13 (jlaska, 16:58:18)
    2. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/esc-1.1.0-12.fc13 (adamw, 16:59:39)
    3. esc update pending: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/esc-1.1.0-12.fc13 (adamw, 17:01:35)
    4. all we need is for the esc update to be pushed to stable and then ifd-egate can be orphaned (adamw, 17:03:07)

  10. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=587704 (jlaska, 17:04:08)
    1. AGREED: 587704 is a valid release blocker impacting default desktop icon consistency (jlaska, 17:06:03)

  11. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583818 (jlaska, 17:06:27)
    1. AGREED: 583818 is a valid release blocker impacting default desktop icon consistency (jlaska, 17:08:54)

  12. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586575 (jlaska, 17:09:25)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/F13_Firstboot_Polish (jlaska, 17:22:44)
    2. ACTION: jlaska to send email to mizmo requesting further feedback on 586575. No current release criteria impacted by this change (jlaska, 17:32:45)

  13. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584603 (jlaska, 17:33:35)
    1. HELP: Karma feedback needed. Please help http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/goddard-kde-theme-13.0.1-1.fc13 (jlaska, 17:35:23)
    2. 584603 looking good, queue'd for stable (jlaska, 17:35:45)

  14. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568106 (jlaska, 17:35:58)
    1. AGREED: 568106 not considered a release blocker, move to F13Target. Willing to take fix if available (jlaska, 17:53:50)

  15. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586575 (jlaska, 17:56:40)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586578 (mizmo, 17:58:05)
    2. AGREED: 586575 is a valid release blocker. (jlaska, 18:02:43)
    3. AGREED: conditionally agreed in a new release criteria - all relevant artwork (ideally specify the set) should be consistent with the theme chosen for the release (jlaska, 18:03:20)
    4. ACTION: group to decide w/mizmo if f13artwork should be used only for issues agreed to be blockers, or if f13artwork should be changed to block f13target and individual bugs which are in fact blockers set as blockers directly (adamw, 18:03:54)

  16. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567325 (jlaska, 18:05:27)
    1. ACTION: Oxf13 to block ifd-egate to prevent showing up on F13 media (jlaska, 18:13:56)
    2. ACTION: adamw to update 567325 and re-request ifd-egate be orphaned when the esc update is complete (jlaska, 18:14:24)

  17. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585250 (jlaska, 18:15:15)
    1. HELP: Karma feedback needed - http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initscripts-9.02.2-1 (jlaska, 18:16:49)
    2. HELP: Karma feedback needed - http://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/initscripts-9.10-1.fc13 (jlaska, 18:17:04)
    3. testing needed, fix available in bodhi (jlaska, 18:17:41)

  18. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586685 (jlaska, 18:18:07)
    1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=585689 (Kyril, 18:19:04)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568528 is the 'parent' bug for the lokkit thing (adamw, 18:21:26)
    3. AGREED: 586685 more information needed from reporter ... unable to determine problem impact. Remain on F13Blocker pending feedback (jlaska, 18:29:22)
    4. ACTION: retest 586685 attempt a default install and post firewall rules in bz (jlaska, 18:29:41)

  19. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=584229 (jlaska, 18:30:26)
    1. AGREED: 584229 is a valid blocker. Impacts any Intel chip with DVI (jlaska, 18:43:09)
    2. ajax believes he has a fix, should be able to upload a kernel for testing soon (adamw, 18:44:14)

  20. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=577059 (jlaska, 18:44:59)
    1. AGREED: 577059 can be moved to F13Target. Will be released as a qemu day-0 update (jlaska, 18:52:42)

  21. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586916 (jlaska, 18:52:56)
    1. AGREED: 586916 is a valid release blocker. (jlaska, 19:01:51)
    2. recommend either fixing or disabling aesni-intel for F-13 (jlaska, 19:02:04)

  22. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=572771 (jlaska, 19:02:14)
    1. AGREED: 572771 is not a valid release blocker. (jlaska, 19:06:15)
    2. does not appear to be a systemic problem affecting all hibernate (jlaska, 19:06:28)

  23. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583790 (jlaska, 19:09:44)
    1. AGREED: 583790 is a valid blocker (jlaska, 19:12:49)
    2. No application may unintentionally appear twice in the menus. In particular, things under System must not appear under Applications (jlaska, 19:12:54)

  24. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=567978 (jlaska, 19:13:09)
    1. AGREED: 567978 will remain a F13Blocker. (jlaska, 19:19:51)
    2. Awaiting further updates from dcbw (jlaska, 19:20:21)

  25. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586511 (jlaska, 19:20:37)
    1. AGREED: 586511 not a release blocker. Does not impact existing release criteria (jlaska, 19:28:34)
    2. AGREED: move 586511 to F13Target, accept fix if available in time (jlaska, 19:28:52)

  26. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586910 (jlaska, 19:29:04)
    1. ACTION: adamw to ping gd directly on irc re: 586511 (adamw, 19:35:19)
    2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/13/Spins (Oxf13, 19:37:45)
    3. HELP: Karma test feedback needed - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/telepathy-gabble-0.9.11-1.fc13 (jlaska, 19:41:05)
    4. AGREED: 586910 remains on F13Blocker. No specific release criteria exist, but presence of bug makes SOAS spin unusable (jlaska, 19:43:35)

  27. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578965 (jlaska, 19:45:06)
    1. AGREED: 578965 is not a valid release blocker. Failure is specific to one NVidia adapter. No reports of widepread failures from other NVidia adapters (jlaska, 19:54:34)
    2. would consider as a 'nice to have' fix, but would need high confidence the changes don't impact working drivers (jlaska, 19:55:26)

  28. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582468 (jlaska, 19:55:41)
  29. Open discussion - bring out your bugs (jlaska, 20:09:42)


Meeting ended at 20:19:24 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. jlaska to retest 569469. If problem resolved, remove from F13Blocker
  2. jlaska to send email to mizmo requesting further feedback on 586575. No current release criteria impacted by this change
  3. group to decide w/mizmo if f13artwork should be used only for issues agreed to be blockers, or if f13artwork should be changed to block f13target and individual bugs which are in fact blockers set as blockers directly
  4. Oxf13 to block ifd-egate to prevent showing up on F13 media
  5. adamw to update 567325 and re-request ifd-egate be orphaned when the esc update is complete
  6. retest 586685 attempt a default install and post firewall rules in bz
  7. adamw to ping gd directly on irc re: 586511


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to update 567325 and re-request ifd-egate be orphaned when the esc update is complete
    2. adamw to ping gd directly on irc re: 586511
  2. jlaska
    1. jlaska to retest 569469. If problem resolved, remove from F13Blocker
    2. jlaska to send email to mizmo requesting further feedback on 586575. No current release criteria impacted by this change
  3. mizmo
    1. jlaska to send email to mizmo requesting further feedback on 586575. No current release criteria impacted by this change
    2. group to decide w/mizmo if f13artwork should be used only for issues agreed to be blockers, or if f13artwork should be changed to block f13target and individual bugs which are in fact blockers set as blockers directly
  4. Oxf13
    1. Oxf13 to block ifd-egate to prevent showing up on F13 media


People present (lines said)

  1. jlaska (424)
  2. adamw (318)
  3. Oxf13 (133)
  4. drago01 (51)
  5. buggbot (39)
  6. mizmo (35)
  7. clumens (25)
  8. bcl (15)
  9. simo (12)
  10. jforbes (10)
  11. zodbot (8)
  12. Kyril (7)
  13. rdieter (6)
  14. ajax (6)
  15. poelcat (5)
  16. nirik (2)
  17. Sho_ (2)
  18. jraber (1)


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