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#fedora-bugzappers: Fedora Release Blocker Bug Review - http://tinyurl.com/ygmge7c

Meeting started by jlaska at 15:00:52 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. gathering participants (jlaska, 15:01:11)
    1. http://tinyurl.com/ygmge7c (jlaska, 15:02:11)
    2. 56 bugs on the F12Blocker list for review today (jlaska, 15:02:29)
    3. thanks to mcepl for re-arranging X blockers with their own blocker bug (jlaska, 15:12:10)

  2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=493058 (adamw, 15:12:17)
    1. thanks to [jkeating] for going through the rest of the list after wednesday's pre-meeting (jlaska, 15:12:19)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/showdependencytree.cgi?id=473303&hide_resolved=1 (adamw, 15:13:05)
    3. waiting on retest (jlaska, 15:15:37)
    4. AGREED: 493058 waiting on further info from zootboy, likely will be closed (adamw, 15:15:54)

  3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523941 (adamw, 15:16:34)
    1. AGREED: no action possible on 523941, waiting for virt team to pin down the problem (adamw, 15:20:14)

  4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524229 (adamw, 15:20:48)
    1. AGREED: 524229 is under control, fix expected soon (adamw, 15:23:19)

  5. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528754 (adamw, 15:23:30)
    1. ACTION: adamw to update 528754 with agreed recommended approach (adamw, 15:30:51)

  6. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529363 (adamw, 15:32:22)
    1. thanks to jforbes for helping review virtualization issues (adamw, 15:34:55)
    2. AGREED: 529363 no action needed, issue appears to be quite simple and clear (adamw, 15:35:17)

  7. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501769 (adamw, 15:36:34)
    1. ACTION: adamw to try to produce clean information on actual f12-blocking issues from messy 501769 (adamw, 15:43:24)

  8. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506013 (adamw, 15:43:40)
    1. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=2 (jlaska, 15:45:28)
    2. AGREED: 506013 looks fixed, needs anaconda team to request a tag for anaconda 12.39 then confirmation from reporter (adamw, 15:48:44)

  9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506075 (adamw, 15:50:10)
    1. AGREED: drop 506075 from the list due to lack of any f12 reporters, ask for new bug report from anyone suffering in f12 (adamw, 15:56:48)

  10. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=512944 (adamw, 15:57:07)
    1. AGREED: 512944 is borderline but stays on the list for now, mclasen will have halfline look into the bug (adamw, 16:05:56)

  11. BREAK FOR DELECTATIONS (adamw, 16:06:43)
    1. ACTION: oxf13 receives a TMI yellow card (adamw, 16:18:59)
    2. ACTION: oxf13 receives a TMI bench minor (adamw, 16:19:19)

  12. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=513864 (adamw, 16:19:37)
    1. AGREED: drop 513864, single-reporter Firefox bug, likely Flash-related, no-one could reproduce (adamw, 16:24:02)

  13. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514000 (adamw, 16:24:48)
    1. AGREED: 514000 to be dropped to F12Target, not serious / widespread enough to qualify as a blocker (adamw, 16:31:07)

  14. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514760 (adamw, 16:31:36)
    1. AGREED: 514760 stays on the list for now, jlaska will reach out to llim (adamw, 16:36:45)
    2. ACTION: jlaska to talk to llim about 514760 (adamw, 16:36:53)

  15. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516057 (adamw, 16:37:02)
    1. AGREED: 512845 to be dropped from list, execmem checks are disabled for GA (adamw, 16:42:14)
    2. AGREED: previous note should say 516057 not 512845 (adamw, 16:42:33)

  16. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517260 (adamw, 16:42:44)
    1. no updates from last meeting ... recommend it stay on the list. Awaiting testing against official build anaconda-12.39-1 (jlaska, 16:42:51)
    2. AGREED: 517260 is waiting for anaconda 12.39 to be tagged so it can be confirmed fixed (adamw, 16:44:48)

  17. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517491 (adamw, 16:45:00)
    1. AGREED: 517491 stays a blocker, group is sceptical that reporters were actually running into the problem dcantrell thinks they were. Comment to ask Liam and He to re-run the test case with current code. (adamw, 16:53:45)

  18. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517839 (adamw, 16:53:56)
    1. AGREED: 517839 is in hand, waiting on testing, thanks to oxf13 for handling it (adamw, 16:56:13)

  19. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528662 (adamw, 16:56:25)
    1. AGREED: 528662 fix is confirmed by mclasen and rdieter, bug to be closed, with a note to re-open if still finding problems (adamw, 16:59:19)

  20. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=520750 (adamw, 16:59:27)
    1. AGREED: 520750 appears to have been a one-off reporter-side problem, no other reports and reporter cannot now reproduce: CLOSED WORKSFORME (adamw, 17:01:29)

  21. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522187 (adamw, 17:01:48)
    1. AGREED: 522187 drops to target, not a bug in critical path and can be fixed as an update (adamw, 17:08:46)
    2. ACTION: jlaska to reach out for further testing (adamw, 17:08:51)

  22. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522970 (adamw, 17:09:29)
    1. AGREED: 522970 to stay on list for now, adamw will investigate (adamw, 17:16:02)

  23. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523110 (adamw, 17:16:12)
    1. AGREED: 523110 another OO.o bug in-hand thanks to Jesse, waiting on confirmation (adamw, 17:17:32)

  24. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523768 (adamw, 17:17:51)
    1. AGREED: 523768 probably should not be a blocker as it seems to only happen if the user manually messes up ALSA config files, waiting for mcepl to confirm (adamw, 17:22:42)

  25. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=524168 (adamw, 17:23:19)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/2579 (adamw, 17:25:23)
    2. AGREED: 524168: fixed dmraid went into rawhide on 20091021, ask for re-testing (adamw, 17:27:08)
    3. AGREED: 524168 wait for testing for a week before closing, but close next week if no feedback received (adamw, 17:28:44)

  26. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526044 (adamw, 17:29:21)
    1. AGREED: 526044 still waiting on developers (adamw, 17:31:23)
    2. ACTION: oxf13 to try and catch up with developers for 526044 (adamw, 17:31:31)

  27. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526154 (adamw, 17:31:41)
    1. AGREED: 526154 drops to target, impact is not wide enough for it to block release (adamw, 17:37:40)

  28. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526699 (adamw, 17:37:59)
    1. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=d04d7f33f58bc8d1f21db4f48958166f0f46bf27 (jlaska, 17:39:42)
    2. AGREED: 526699 should be fixed in 12.39, set to MODIFIED and ask Peter to confirm (adamw, 17:40:35)

  29. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=526881 (adamw, 17:41:11)
    1. AGREED: 526881 is a straightforward issue which was reproduced, fixed and tagged: closing (adamw, 17:47:21)

  30. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527089 (adamw, 17:48:24)
    1. AGREED: 527089 can be dropped from blocker list as it is fixed in f12 now, thanks halfline for explanations (adamw, 18:04:16)

  31. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527426 (adamw, 18:04:26)
    1. AGREED: 527426 remains a blocker, halfline is aware and will work on it (adamw, 18:07:15)

  32. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530452 (adamw, 18:08:33)
    1. AGREED: 530452 is a blocker and halfline has it in hand: the major bug (gdm not picking up the system-wide default layout set during installation) will be fixed (adamw, 18:14:11)

  33. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527520 (adamw, 18:16:28)
    1. AGREED: 527520 another fixed in anaconda 12.39, ask christoph wickert to confirm the fix (adamw, 18:19:47)

  34. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527920 (adamw, 18:20:20)
    1. AGREED: 527920 is a blocker and on halfline's priority list, no action needed (adamw, 18:24:07)

  35. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=527952 (adamw, 18:24:19)
    1. AGREED: 527952 is another anaconda 12.39 retest issue, no action needed (adamw, 18:25:50)

  36. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528097 (adamw, 18:25:56)
    1. AGREED: 528097 is probably fixed, still waiting on feedback, close at next meeting if no feedback received by then (adamw, 18:26:52)

  37. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528317 (adamw, 18:27:01)
    1. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commit;h=2525dda439357f0d169d8eca6e47a8d154ce8097 (jlaska, 18:30:28)
    2. testing required - text and gui language, keyboard and timezone steps (jlaska, 18:31:49)
    3. ACTION: jlaska to catch up with clumens to identify test impact for 528317 (jlaska, 18:33:59)
    4. AGREED: 528317 needs to be a blocker, but the fix is invasive: jlaska will sync up with clumens to make sure fix is implemented as cleanly as possible and to arrange sufficient testing (adamw, 18:34:37)
    5. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=anaconda.git;a=commitdiff;h=2525dda439357f0d169d8eca6e47a8d154ce8097;hp=fbd2e28131d2bf834df883961c7eedb844bb3ebe (jlaska, 18:34:50)

  38. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528497 (adamw, 18:36:14)
    1. AGREED: 528497 jlaska to test this and clarify what package / version it should be fixed in (adamw, 18:38:29)
    2. ACTION: jlaska to re-test 528497 (adamw, 18:38:36)

  39. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528537 (adamw, 18:38:48)
    1. AGREED: 528537 is fixed in a later koji kernel build, ask if we can have a newer build tagged soon (adamw, 18:50:23)

  40. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528909 (adamw, 18:51:36)
    1. AGREED: 528909 is a blocker and on davidz's todo list, no action needed (adamw, 18:54:26)

  41. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530320 (adamw, 18:54:34)
    1. AGREED: 530320 covers multiple issues, ask reporter to file separate bugs for each and use 530320 as a tracker. smolt issue should be fixed as of today's rawhide (adamw, 19:02:28)

  42. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530343 (adamw, 19:02:56)
  43. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514415 (adamw, 20:18:31)
    1. AGREED: 514415 seems to be openchrome-related and single reporter, downgrading from blocker (adamw, 20:25:09)

  44. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=514600 (adamw, 20:26:52)
    1. AGREED: on 514600 need more info from jlaska (adamw, 20:37:33)

  45. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521322 (adamw, 20:37:57)
    1. AGREED: 521322 is downgraded as it only happens with non-standard and unnecessary kernel command line parameter (adamw, 20:44:41)

  46. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=521512 (adamw, 20:45:14)
    1. AGREED: 521512 accepted as a blocker, common chipset. No action besides poking maintainers to look at bug (adamw, 20:49:52)

  47. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522929 (adamw, 20:50:05)
    1. AGREED: 522929 hard to assess without more info and split, adamw will triage (adamw, 20:54:59)

  48. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522970 (adamw, 20:55:21)
    1. http://www.smolts.org/reports/view_device/Radeon%20R100%20QD%20%5BRadeon%207200%5D (adamw, 20:58:11)
    2. AGREED: 522970 stays on the list for now due to apparently popular hardware, adamw has posted a needinfo request (adamw, 21:01:01)

  49. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=523800 (adamw, 21:01:13)
    1. AGREED: for 523800, either driver must be fixed, dropped or made non-default for release: explain the options in bug comment and ask X team to pick one (adamw, 21:15:01)

  50. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528005 (adamw, 21:15:52)
    1. AGREED: 528005 stays on the list, no action needed but pinging maintainer (adamw, 21:21:27)
    2. AGREED: 528005 stays on the list, ping maintainer to look at it (adamw, 21:24:13)

  51. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528048 (adamw, 21:24:25)
    1. AGREED: 528048 is downgraded to target as it's a non-universal suspend issue, ask for more details from notting (adamw, 21:41:32)

  52. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528312 (adamw, 21:41:35)
    1. AGREED: 528312 is downgraded as impact is not serious enough to be blocker (adamw, 21:45:55)

  53. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530169 (adamw, 21:46:06)
    1. AGREED: 530169 can stay on list; borderline decision but ben's blocker workload is light and provided information is excellent so chances are high this can be fixed (adamw, 21:49:06)


Meeting ended at 21:55:59 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. adamw to update 528754 with agreed recommended approach
  2. adamw to try to produce clean information on actual f12-blocking issues from messy 501769
  3. oxf13 receives a TMI yellow card
  4. oxf13 receives a TMI bench minor
  5. jlaska to talk to llim about 514760
  6. jlaska to reach out for further testing
  7. oxf13 to try and catch up with developers for 526044
  8. jlaska to catch up with clumens to identify test impact for 528317
  9. jlaska to re-test 528497


Action items, by person

  1. adamw
    1. adamw to update 528754 with agreed recommended approach
    2. adamw to try to produce clean information on actual f12-blocking issues from messy 501769
  2. jlaska
    1. jlaska to talk to llim about 514760
    2. jlaska to reach out for further testing
    3. jlaska to catch up with clumens to identify test impact for 528317
    4. jlaska to re-test 528497
  3. UNASSIGNED
    1. oxf13 receives a TMI yellow card
    2. oxf13 receives a TMI bench minor
    3. oxf13 to try and catch up with developers for 526044


People present (lines said)

  1. adamw (651)
  2. jlaska (207)
  3. Oxf13 (98)
  4. buggbot (56)
  5. halfline (55)
  6. mcepl_ (33)
  7. denise (29)
  8. jforbes (23)
  9. notting (23)
  10. tk009 (17)
  11. mclasen (8)
  12. Bouska (3)
  13. zodbot (3)
  14. denise_akf (3)
  15. mdomsch (1)


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