15:32:34 <jsmith> #startmeeting Fedora Board public IRC meeting
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15:32:48 <jsmith> #meetingname fedora_board
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15:32:56 * abadger1999 present
15:32:56 <jsmith> #topic Roll call (for Board members)
15:33:01 * jsmith is here
15:33:05 <rdieter> wassup
15:33:12 * jreznik is here
15:33:15 <jsmith> kital wrote to the mailing list, saying he won't be able to make it
15:33:42 <jsmith> jreznik: Do you mind being secretary, since you weren't around last week -- essentially I had you and pbrobinson trade places
15:34:47 <pbrobinson> jsmith: thanks for reminding me with that poke. Are we in 00:25 mins or 1:25 mins?
15:35:06 <pbrobinson> or even now!
15:35:13 <jsmith> pbrobinson: Now :-/
15:35:25 <jreznik> jsmith: I can do it (even /me did secretary work week before :D)
15:35:40 <jsmith> jreznik: OK, thanks :-)
15:35:41 * pbrobinson had a head cold and is all over the place today!
15:36:27 * gomix here
15:36:30 <jsmith> Ok, we have a quorum :-)
15:36:43 <jsmith> Let's go ahead and get started
15:36:54 <jsmith> #topic Board business
15:37:14 <jsmith> Let's go ahead and hit a few tickets again this week, and then we'll try to leave a few minutes for Q and A near the end of the meeting
15:37:28 <jsmith> Any particular topics Board members would like to tackle first?
15:38:38 <jsmith> OK, let's go ahead and look at ticket 122 first -- it's a community domain request from indonesia
15:39:16 * jsmith feels like we've covered this one before
15:39:22 <pbrobinson> jsmith: not sure if there's a ticket for this but did we ever hear back from legal regarding trademarks for use of Fedora by cloud/hosting providers?
15:39:41 <pbrobinson> jsmith: I thought we did 122 last week
15:40:03 <jsmith> Ah, we did it last week, but didn't close the ticket.
15:40:03 <rdieter> there's been no update in the ticket, fwiw.
15:40:29 <gomix> i don recall what was the conclusion over it..
15:40:29 <jsmith> OK, I'll close the ticket.
15:40:38 <jsmith> It was approved in the 15 Nov 2011 meeting
15:41:28 <gomix> http://id.fedoracommunity.org/ not working yet... who follow this up?
15:41:50 <jsmith> gomix: The requester will need to contact Infrastructure to set that part up
15:41:58 <jsmith> (and I noted that in the ticket)
15:43:10 <jreznik> #info ticket #122 already approved on 15 Nov 2011 meeting, jsmith to update it (with the steps needed to set it up)
15:43:14 <jsmith> pbrobinson: No, still no status update there.  I've continued to ask for a status update there, and it's still being worked on.  Spot and I may end up traveling to Raleigh in the next couple of weeks to try to finish the discussions.
15:43:20 <jsmith> jreznik: Already done :-)
15:43:27 <jsmith> abadger1999: Any update on ticket 117?
15:43:58 <jsmith> #info Ticket 117 is a request for us to take ownership of the "Fedora" component on Launchpad.net
15:44:02 <abadger1999> no answer from launchpad regisstry admins
15:44:10 <abadger1999> so we're still waiting on them.
15:44:14 <jsmith> OK, we'll revisit that one in the future then
15:45:22 <gomix> what about 90 ?
15:45:27 * jsmith looks for other tickets that might need attention
15:45:59 <jreznik> what's the reason having fedora page on launchpad? :)
15:46:01 <jsmith> gomix: non-software goods agreements are also held up pending some answers from Red Hat legal.... We're hoping to have a response on that very soon as well
15:46:29 <jsmith> jreznik: I don't pretend to understand it completely, but apparently it has been there for quite a number of years so far, without an owner.
15:46:49 <jsmith> jreznik: I guess it's so that people can report bugs against Fedora on launchpad.net, but that's just a naive guess on my part
15:47:02 <abadger1999> jreznik: launchpad has pages for all sorts of distros -- I don;t know why -- hopefully they'll clarify.
15:47:09 <rdieter> one bugtracker to rule them all
15:47:22 * jsmith hasn't spent enough time on launchpad.net to know
15:47:43 * gomix asking an ubuntu friend about it....
15:48:09 <jreznik> do we want to be there officially? (not like I'm against launchpad etc.) but if someone is going to take care about page to be updated etc.
15:48:52 <jsmith> jreznik: I don't have any problem with us being there... I would hope that we could use it to redirect folks to a more direct source of information about Fedora, though.
15:48:54 <pbrobinson> I suggested we just get it deleted, I believe some thought that might not be politically the best thing to do
15:49:33 <jsmith> Well, we certainly want to play nice with other distributions
15:49:50 <jsmith> I guess I'd rather hear from them what they'd prefer we do with it
15:49:58 <jsmith> (or if they're fine with the status quo)
15:50:20 <jsmith> So I'm not sure there's much we can do until we hear back from them.
15:50:34 <rdieter> jsmith: +1
15:50:35 <jreznik> jsmith: yep, first let's see what's the intention of launchpad guys
15:50:41 <jsmith> Anyhoo, looks like this may be a short meeting today.
15:50:51 <jsmith> Any other tickets you want to look at, before we move on to a Q and A session?
15:51:22 <jreznik> as I said - if someone is going to take care about it, I'm ok with it (at least redirect to bz, fpo etc) but otherwise it could be bad for us
15:51:23 <bckurera> !
15:51:52 <jsmith> bckurera: Go ahead...
15:52:07 <bckurera> #112 need some attention pls
15:52:13 <rdieter> looks like I suck I failed to come up with a proposal re: https://fedorahosted.org/board/ticket/83 , will try to do so this coming week.
15:52:34 * abadger1999 just notes we've now said we're going to try to visit all tickets monthly so we should think about making sure that happens (divide up tickets so we hit a certain number every week,, or something).
15:53:24 <rdieter> #112 looks good, imo, +1
15:53:45 <jreznik> #info ticket #117: let's wait for the answer from launchpad people what distribution pages are about
15:54:29 <jreznik> abadger1999: and it should be assigned to someone by default to do some triage, prepare it for meeting
15:54:41 <jreznik> similar to fesco what I saw
15:54:55 * jsmith is +1 for ticket #112, assuming there's consensus among the lk community on the site
15:54:56 <abadger1999> jreznik: Sounds good to me.
15:55:11 * pbrobinson is +1 for #112 too
15:55:24 * gomix is +1 for ticket #112
15:55:54 * jds2001 arrives, sorry for being late
15:56:03 <jsmith> Looks like we've got 4 votes in the positive for ticket #112
15:56:08 <jsmith> Any other votes?
15:56:18 <jsmith> (we need five votes for majority approval)
15:56:38 <jds2001> +1
15:56:48 <jsmith> OK, ticket 112 is approved
15:56:54 <jsmith> I'll update the ticket and close it.
15:57:09 <jreznik> #info ticket 112 approved
15:57:26 <jreznik> count my +1 too (late I know)
15:57:50 <jsmith> No worries...
15:57:57 <abadger1999> I know the sri lanka community had some internal miscommunication recently -- has this request been run by the others in the community?
15:58:45 <jsmith> abadger1999: I sent a couple of emails around, and nobody responded... I'm assuming no news is good news
15:58:54 <abadger1999> Okay -- silence is consent
15:58:58 <jsmith> abadger1999: If there is a concern there, we can always address it later
15:59:15 <abadger1999> <nod> /me just would rather not get into a tug of war with a domain name in the middle
15:59:22 <jsmith> Agreed...
15:59:30 <abadger1999> +1 to ticket
16:00:03 <jsmith> #topic Appointed Board seats
16:00:16 <jsmith> Let's shift gears for a second, and talk about appointed Board seats
16:00:38 <jsmith> As you probably know, each election cycle the FPL appoints two of the Board seats
16:00:44 <jsmith> (one before the election, and one afterward)
16:01:05 <jsmith> Since the election is getting close, it's time for me to announce the first of the two appointed seats for this cycle
16:01:32 <jsmith> Toshio (abadger1999) has agreed to serve another cycle on the Board in an appointed seat
16:01:53 * jsmith thanks abadger1999 for his willingness to serve, and his continued efforts to make the Board better
16:02:04 <jsmith> I'll send a note to the announce list after the meeting
16:02:26 <jsmith> I'll announce the other appointed seat after the elections.
16:02:30 <jreznik> abadger1999: congrats!
16:02:41 <abadger1999> thanks
16:02:42 <jreznik> jsmith: best choice, really
16:03:19 <jsmith> I'm still actively seeking nominations for the other appointed seat -- so if you or someone you know is interested, now would be the time to let me know :-)
16:03:41 <jsmith> Now let's leave some time for Q and A
16:03:43 <gomix> abadger1999: thanks for being there!
16:03:43 <jreznik> #info abadger1999 will be appointed for next Fedora Board cycle by FPL
16:03:59 <jsmith> #topic Questions and Answer session
16:05:19 * ke4qqq shows up late
16:05:36 <jsmith> ke4qqq: No worries...
16:05:50 <jreznik> all: see the IRC meeting protocol http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/IRC#General_Rules
16:05:53 <jsmith> ke4qqq: We're doing open Q and A now
16:06:00 <jreznik> Participants may only speak when it is their turn. There is a speaking queue. The moderator will inform you when it is your turn to speak.
16:06:08 <jreznik> If you have a question, type ?. You will be added to the end of the speaking queue.
16:06:14 <jreznik> If you need to speak, type !. You will be added to the end of the speaking queue.
16:06:25 <jreznik> If you're done speaking, type eof. That will let others know you're done.
16:07:39 <jsmith> Quiet crowd today :-)
16:08:19 <jsmith> Maybe everyone is saving their questions for the Board town hall meeting at 21:00 UTC today?
16:08:36 * jsmith gently reminds folks of that meeting
16:09:01 <pbrobinson> is that the questions for board candidates town hall meeting?
16:09:11 * jreznik set double alarm for 22:00 CET today
16:09:21 <jreznik> pbrobinson: yep
16:10:08 <jsmith> OK, if there are no questions for the Board in the next couple of minutes, I'll end the meeting.
16:12:42 <jsmith> Thanks everyone for attending!
16:13:00 <jsmith> #endmeeting