16:06:42 #startmeeting F22-blocker-review 16:06:42 Meeting started Mon Jan 12 16:06:42 2015 UTC. The chair is roshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 16:06:42 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 16:06:42 #meetingname F22-blocker-review 16:06:42 The meeting name has been set to 'f22-blocker-review' 16:06:43 #topic Roll Call 16:06:57 * brunowolff is here 16:07:08 * roshi is here (obviously) 16:08:10 * kparal is here 16:08:15 ahoyhoy 16:08:21 * satellit_e listening 16:08:37 #chair adamw kparal brunowolff satellit_e sgallagh 16:08:38 Current chairs: adamw brunowolff kparal roshi satellit_e sgallagh 16:08:49 #topic Introduction 16:08:49 Why are we here? 16:08:49 #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 16:08:53 #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 16:08:55 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 16:08:58 #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 16:09:00 #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 16:09:03 #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 16:09:05 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Alpha_Release_Criteria 16:09:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Beta_Release_Criteria 16:09:11 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_22_Final_Release_Criteria 16:09:23 * pschindl_wifi is here (after small connection failure) 16:09:30 /me is here 16:09:35 first and last proposed blocker - for beta 16:09:36 #topic (1166598) going back to installation destination picker swaps partitions on disks 16:09:39 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1166598 16:09:42 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED 16:10:12 no movement from last week 16:10:54 I remain unconvinced that the annoyance level of this bug is worth blocker status. I'd happily call it a Freeze Exception. 16:10:56 what information do we need? 16:11:09 there's no needinfo in that bug 16:11:50 There was a patch that fixed part of the problem and we aren't sure if it is in the package now. 16:12:10 There was a less important related issue that is still open. 16:12:49 iirc the patch we initially put in for this caused another blocker, so it was reverted 16:13:02 http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2015-01-07/f22-blocker-review.2015-01-07-16.02.log.html 16:13:17 at 16:55:24 is the discussion from last meeting 16:13:39 we're calling potentially destructive commands on wrong partitions, I think this should be a blocker 16:14:07 does this still happen in rawhide? 16:14:08 we waived it last time because we didn't want to delay the release further 16:14:41 i'm not +1 *alpha* blocker for this in any case as it clearly doesn't hit the pretty tight alpha disk criteria 16:14:46 it's beta or final for me 16:14:47 we will need to test it in all cases 16:14:56 but let me track down exactly what was in that updates.img, should be in my IRC logs 16:14:56 adamw: it's proposed for beta 16:15:01 kk 16:15:15 I also think it's not alpha material 16:16:08 * roshi either 16:16:23 beta I can see pretty easy, final for sure 16:16:56 afaics there's nothing intended to fix this on master. 16:17:04 i can't tell from IRC logs exactly what was in that updates.img 16:17:13 but whatever it was, it didn't get committed, i don't think. 16:17:39 so we need to get someone to poke at getting the fix committed? 16:18:10 aiui, right now it's just a graphical quirk, not a actual swapping of the intended disks, right? 16:18:21 I think they'll want to rework it a bit anyway, the original fix caused other issues, that's why we reverted it 16:18:47 roshi: no, i don't think that's right. 16:18:55 I believe it still crashes because it runs lvremove on a standard partition, or something like that 16:19:06 roshi: there's nothing in anaconda that addresses the bug in any way. i don't see any reason to believe that it isn't still valid exactly as described. 16:19:14 c#22 was talking about the updates.img 16:19:27 you can't use that to say 'ah, it's mostly fixed'; 16:20:07 ah, I misunderstood then 16:20:45 I was under the impression that the updates.img was the fix for the crash and it had made it in - but left the odd swap of disk order in the display 16:21:21 i don't think so, but hold while i check blivet 16:21:25 I think it didn't make it in 16:21:25 keep forgetting to check fking blivet 16:22:00 I could easily be wrong :) 16:22:31 yeah, no, still the same story in blivet. i'm pretty sure that change never made it in. 16:22:35 kk 16:22:40 +1 on that 16:22:42 the *earlier* attempt to fix it made it in, but was reverted, as we previously discussed. 16:22:47 er, w/ that info 16:22:55 so i'm +1 blocker either beta or final 16:23:02 probably final to be realistic 16:23:12 i can see us handwaving it at beta 16:23:48 same here 16:24:03 either way though, this is more lead time on it than it ever had before, even for beta 16:24:09 which is a good thing :) 16:24:23 votes for beta blocker? 16:24:53 I'm a bit afraid it will get waived again if this waits for final 16:25:18 +1 beta 16:25:25 +1 beta blocker 16:25:47 +1 beta 16:26:00 I can be convinced for final instead, I'd prefer beta 16:26:22 what's the criterion for beta, btw? 16:26:30 +1 for beta 16:26:34 looking for it now 16:27:07 ""When using the guided partitioning flow, the installer must be able to: 16:27:08 "Discussed at 2014-11-05 blocker review meeting [1]. Accepted as a blocker. This bug violates the beta criterion "Complete an installation using any combination of disk configuration options it allows the user to select" in the case you change your mind." 16:27:10 * Complete an installation using any combination of disk configuration options it allows the user to select 16:27:13 * Remove existing storage volumes to free up space, at the user's direction" 16:27:32 wow, sorry for that ugly paste I just did :( 16:27:55 but I'm not totally sure it was not the other bug that we forked this bug from 16:27:56 sure 16:28:08 damn forking 16:28:22 *cloning 16:28:28 I'm fine with that criteria since we put the "if you change your mind" bit at the end 16:28:58 proposed #agreed - 1166598 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the beta criterion "Complete an installation using any combination of disk configuration options it allows the user to select" in the case you change your mind 16:29:51 ack 16:30:26 ack 16:30:40 #agreed - 1166598 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug violates the beta criterion "Complete an installation using any combination of disk configuration options it allows the user to select" in the case you change your mind 16:30:51 who wants to secretarialize? 16:31:22 * roshi can after the meeting if no one wants to 16:32:07 i've got it 16:32:22 sweet, thanks :) 16:32:44 alright, onto the 2 proposed for Final 16:32:46 #topic (1179905) [dnf] select default optional addons when changing environments 16:32:49 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1179905 16:32:52 #info Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED 16:35:04 I think our current criteria don't cover this 16:35:06 i'm not sure this would actually constitute a blocker in practice atm as i don't think any of our blocking package sets uses default option groups 16:35:19 so the question is whether they should 16:35:31 adamw: and that 16:35:35 seems more like a FE, to me 16:35:39 i'd probably say that *if they did* it'd be an alpha or beta blocker (I have a proposal to amend the relevant criterion in for review atm), but as they don't, it's probably not 16:36:11 i'd just go -1 blocker for now, we can revisit later if it seems needed, but probably won't be 16:36:12 -1 blocker 16:36:22 -1 16:36:22 WORKSFORME, -1 blocker 16:36:34 * jsmith lurks while listening to a conference call at ${DAYJOB} 16:37:35 proposed #agreed - 1179905 - RejectedBlocker - This bug doesn't violate any criterion we have currently and none of the release blocking package sets use default option groups. 16:37:42 ack 16:37:55 ACK 16:45:18 yeah, be good to have independent confirmation 16:45:28 we can consider the meeting ended, and when zodbot gets back I'll do the endmeeting bits and send the minutes 16:45:31 pschindl_wifi is now also on rawhide 16:45:40 or make them if zodbot did kick the can 16:46:09 thanks for coming folks! 16:46:10 kparal: That's true, but I have f21 at home. 16:46:16 heeeeeere's zodbot 16:46:28 wifi works for mw on f22 rawhide lives 16:46:29 #topic (1180706) Does not launch: "Gjs-CRITICAL **: Attempting to call back into JSAPI during the sweeping phase of GC." 16:46:39 #agreed - 1180706 - AcceptedBlocker - This bug is a clear violation of the Final criterion: "All applications that can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test." 16:46:47 #topic Open Floor 16:46:47 there we go 16:46:52 history recreated! 16:47:09 :) 16:47:11 * satellit soory too soon for comment 16:47:21 * roshi is going to end meeting unless someone has something 16:47:23 satellit: npnp 16:47:28 3... 16:47:42 2... 16:47:56 1... 16:48:03 0.66... 16:48:14 0.33... 16:48:15 0.pi 16:48:27 thanks for coming! 16:48:30 #endmeeting