15:58:23 #startmeeting F21-blocker-review 15:58:23 Meeting started Wed Oct 8 15:58:23 2014 UTC. The chair is roshi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:58:23 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:58:23 #meetingname F21-blocker-review 15:58:24 The meeting name has been set to 'f21-blocker-review' 15:58:24 #topic Roll Call 15:58:39 who's around for some not-announced blocker review fun? 15:59:08 ..and an early start to boot :) 15:59:21 what time do you have? 15:59:29 my irssi server time must be off... 15:59:39 11:58 when you started , 59 now 15:59:42 * adamw around 15:59:53 * adamw confirms pwhalen's times 16:00:01 I have 14:01 now 16:00:30 that came through at :59:59 for me 16:00:34 * kparal is here 16:00:39 i think you may need to run ntpdate :) 16:00:44 probably 16:01:28 #chair adamw pwhalen 16:01:28 Current chairs: adamw pwhalen roshi 16:01:35 * pschindl is here 16:01:41 #chair pschindl 16:01:41 Current chairs: adamw pschindl pwhalen roshi 16:01:52 hi pschindl 16:02:01 #chair kparal 16:02:01 Current chairs: adamw kparal pschindl pwhalen roshi 16:02:08 #topic Introduction 16:02:08 Why are we here? 16:02:09 #info Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. 16:02:12 #info We'll be following the process outlined at: 16:02:15 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting 16:02:17 #info The bugs up for review today are available at: 16:02:20 #link http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current 16:02:22 #info The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: 16:02:25 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Alpha_Release_Criteria 16:02:28 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria 16:02:31 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Final_Release_Criteria 16:02:34 we have a whopping 3 proposed blockers to look at today 16:02:46 \o/ 16:02:53 first up is: 16:02:54 #topic (1121409) Offline update failed 16:02:54 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121409 16:02:54 #info Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, NEW 16:05:38 after c10 it seems as -1 blocker 16:06:00 so it would seem 16:06:04 probably even close the bug 16:06:09 yay, short meetings 16:06:49 let me see if kalev's around 16:06:58 might need some more testing 16:08:42 adamw: I don't think there's anything left to do 16:08:42 adamw: but if anyone runs into an offline update failure, send them my way, I'd like to make sure it actually works 16:08:42 OK 16:08:42 but this bug is describing an issue that was there previously and is fixed now 16:08:43 no point in keeping the ticket open, I think 16:08:59 +1 to close 16:09:02 +1 close 16:09:03 secretary volunteer? 16:09:10 +1 close 16:09:12 -1 blocker, should be confirmed 16:09:13 * adamw can do it, but doesn't mind if anyone else wants to 16:09:17 -1 16:09:40 * kparal hides 16:09:58 pwhalen: you mean don't close it before confirming the fix on affected system? 16:11:01 be nice to confirm, or if we're confident, close and ask the reporter to reopen if it persists 16:11:35 proposed #agreed - 1121409 - Close - This bug has been resolved. If the issue persists, reopen. 16:11:40 think we usually do the latter 16:11:44 ack 16:11:48 ack 16:11:53 ack 16:11:58 #agreed - 1121409 - Close - This bug has been resolved. If the issue persists, reopen. 16:12:08 #topic (1141700) Do not autoactivate swaps on machine running live images 16:12:11 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141700 16:12:13 #info Proposed Blocker, spin-kickstarts, NEW 16:12:15 * amita joining late 16:12:26 hi amita 16:12:30 heya 16:12:32 no worries amita - least you got here, right? 16:12:44 hehe roshi 16:12:47 yes 16:13:17 any task for me..anything I can do please do let me know, sorry I missed Monday meeting too 16:13:57 * jreznik_ has meeting but it's going to end soon 16:14:08 #info amita to be #actioned with everything 16:14:32 I thought we unproposed this one... 16:14:32 sure roshi you go do beach party then 16:14:42 lol 16:14:55 ;) 16:14:58 oh, i got the un-propose wrong 16:15:04 everyone blame the monkey, and move on 16:15:27 lol 16:15:28 #topic (1141496) syslinux generates unbootable isos in F21 16:15:28 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141496 16:15:28 #info Proposed Blocker, syslinux, NEW 16:15:31 * amita blames monkey for everything 16:15:51 usually a safe bet 16:15:59 afaict adamw no passwords were pasted to the internets, so we're still net positive today :p 16:16:41 roshi: yeah, that makes this a *good* morning 16:16:46 roshi, I saw that password in Adam's code 16:17:06 then not what, 10 minutes later? I did the same thing 16:17:54 we know security! 16:18:27 we're so secure we can hand out passwords and still be secure 16:19:03 did anyone test this one? 16:19:13 not me :P 16:21:09 i haven't checked the physical optical media for tc1 yet 16:21:13 have it burned and sitting here, but not booted :/ 16:21:19 I'll check TC2 16:21:23 i'll really truly get to tc2 today 16:21:25 burning a disk now 16:21:26 gotta do RAID tests too 16:21:49 so, let's punt again 16:22:21 wfm 16:22:46 if I remembered, we could have tested this one as well 16:23:06 remembering things is good! 16:23:07 sadly Tc2 is broken for arm, let pbrobinson know 16:23:10 proposed #agreed - 1141496 - Punt - More tests need to be done with the latest TC. Will re-discuss next meeting. 16:23:25 +1 punt, ack 16:23:34 pwhalen: do you mean you've let him know, or are you asking us to? 16:23:46 sorry, I let him know 16:23:47 :) 16:24:22 cool, thanks 16:25:16 ack 16:25:32 #agreed - 1141496 - Punt - More tests need to be done with the latest TC. Will re-discuss next meeting. 16:25:45 got two proposed FEs 16:26:10 or should we review accepted blockers first 16:26:12 ? 16:26:26 accepted blockers i guess, we're still not frozen 16:26:38 that was my inclination 16:26:46 oh, while folks are here, remember to karma up the anaconda/blivet/pykickstart update if TC2 testing goes well 16:26:49 13 accepted blockers 16:27:09 #topic (1101341) Rescue a Fedora system from grub menu doesn't launch anaconda rescue mode 16:27:12 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1101341 16:27:15 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA 16:27:15 so much for short meetings 16:28:28 fix should be in TC2 for testing 16:28:35 yeah 16:28:52 moving on 16:29:00 #topic (1129629) Anaconda doesn't recognize insufficient size of /boot partition 16:29:03 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1129629 16:29:05 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED 16:31:02 seems like there's a fix on rawhide branch, not sure if it's on 21 16:31:27 * adamw pokes clumens 16:33:27 he's not around, so i guess we can ask for clarification in the bug (or, you know, go look at all that open source code) 16:35:20 proposed #agreed - 1129629 - NEEDINFO - Is there a fix in the F21 repos? 16:35:32 or something more formalish than that 16:35:53 wfm 16:36:21 ack/nack/patch? 16:36:53 * roshi takes a "wfm" as an ack 16:37:05 ack 16:37:14 ack 16:37:25 ack 16:37:26 #agreed - 1129629 - NEEDINFO - Is there a fix in the F21 repos? 16:37:42 #topic (1141707) DeviceFactoryError: new size must of type Size 16:37:42 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141707 16:37:43 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA 16:38:32 should be in TC2 16:38:42 I think we can move to the next 16:39:45 sure 16:40:18 #topic (1143864) unable to do manual partitioning 16:40:18 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1143864 16:40:18 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED 16:42:47 looks like it needs poking 16:43:49 +1 16:44:12 * adamw asks lili to re-test 16:44:16 fix should be in tc2 16:44:38 my burned dvd didn't work with TC2 :( 16:44:43 0.62-1.fc21 is stable and 0.61.3-1.fc21 is in updates-testing 16:44:47 that's weird 16:45:00 $ pkgwat releases python-blivet 16:45:29 kparal: it was a maintainer snafu 16:45:43 kparal: 0.61.2+ have an Epoch to fix it 16:46:26 ok 16:46:31 * kparal doesn't like epochs 16:46:36 #action adamw to ask lili to retest 16:46:41 no-one does, but it was the least worst fix. 16:47:05 #topic (1143972) Anaconda doesn't show correct amount of free space when using disk with mbr and three partitions already existings 16:47:08 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1143972 16:47:10 #info Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW 16:48:26 pschindl: you forgot to update this one 16:49:00 pschindl: my fault. 16:49:04 so basically I think it was petr's error to use mbr-formatted disk while booting over UEFI 16:49:20 even though that can easily happen to an average joe as well 16:49:33 yep. But still it is problem that anaconda doesn't show any useful information about problem 16:49:34 but, anaconda should report the problem better 16:50:27 so we would like to change the bug report to ask for informing the user better 16:50:28 it should do so, i think what's happening is there's a problem in the storage code which only triggers in this case and prevents you getting to the code that should give you a useful error 16:50:29 (iirc) 16:50:35 probably not a blocker, though 16:50:42 probably not 16:50:59 pschindl: can you please update the bug before going to PTO? 16:51:00 yeah 16:51:02 so, i'd be +1 to making this notablocker now 16:51:13 -1 blocker 16:51:21 I could see FE though 16:51:25 kparal: I can. 16:51:26 or maybe adamw can summarize it while updating the bug 16:51:33 i'll try and add a note 16:52:08 -1 blocker here 16:52:15 -1 blocker 16:52:31 proposed #agreed - 1143972 - RejectedBlocker - This isn't a blocker but could use some more useful information in the error presented to the user. 16:53:48 ack 16:53:55 ack 16:54:04 #agreed - 1143972 - RejectedBlocker - This isn't a blocker but could use some more useful information in the error presented to the user. 16:54:07 #topic (1147998) Cloud image does not permit successful reboot 16:54:10 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147998 16:54:12 #info Accepted Blocker, cloud-utils, NEW 16:54:30 no change 16:54:43 since we have no TC2 anyway for cloud images, this is still the same 16:55:03 not much we can do except wait for releng to fix cloud image generation i guess 16:55:13 yep 16:55:17 #topic (1038413) fedup stage2 keymap will always be US again for F20-F21 due to anaconda not writing vconsole.keymap kernel parameter any more (#1035316) 16:55:20 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1038413 16:55:22 #info Accepted Blocker, fedup, NEW 16:56:35 just waiting on fedup for this one 16:56:46 anyone got anything for this? 16:58:31 nope, waiting on fedup 16:58:53 kk, moving on then :) 16:59:00 #topic (1088933) update grubby to support device tree options for arm 16:59:03 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088933 16:59:05 #info Accepted Blocker, grubby, POST 16:59:35 man, this one still 16:59:47 dgilmore is working on this, expected RSN 16:59:49 pwhalen? 16:59:51 cool, thanks :) 17:00:04 sweet 17:00:34 #topic (1120964) Windows NTFS volume corrupted beyond repair during installation 17:00:37 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1120964 17:00:40 #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED 17:01:36 this may be a feature 17:02:07 haha 17:02:15 Anti-malware? 17:02:26 well, if you define windows as malware... 17:02:45 we'd need to get the marketing people in here for *that* discussion 17:03:10 someone to ping chris? 17:03:11 looks like we're waiting for dlehman's fix 17:03:21 oh, you're right 17:03:32 from the comments I don't know dlehman has what he needs 17:04:07 they coulda chatted elsewhere 17:05:45 pinging in f-devel now 17:07:01 i can just ask him to provide an updates.img against the blivet in tc2 17:07:08 that way cmurf can test against tc2 17:07:16 sorry, just got yanked into fesco meeting 17:07:52 np 17:10:36 does that sound like a plan? 17:11:02 wfm 17:11:17 annotate that in bug? 17:11:40 yup 17:12:37 #topic (1121383) ValueError: specified lv is not part of this vg 17:12:38 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1121383 17:12:38 #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, POST 17:12:47 we kinda already touched this one 17:14:06 er, nvm 17:15:18 fix might be in tc2 17:15:30 fix was on master as of 2014-09-22 17:17:08 * adamw catches up 17:17:13 master != f21-branch 17:17:40 right 17:18:44 i can't find the fix in the git log :/ 17:18:52 guess we'll have to ask 17:19:02 sounds about right 17:20:55 we've got 3 more 17:21:02 but it seems like it's just you and me adamw 17:21:51 well, that's enough for checkins 17:21:54 may as well knock them out 17:22:00 #topic (1141398) anaconda does not see existing Fedora 21 install to LVM-on-RAID 17:22:03 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141398 17:22:06 #info Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED 17:22:31 should be fixed in TC3 17:22:53 you mean 2? 17:24:53 either way seems like this one is good 17:29:16 no, i meant 3 17:29:47 ah - well nothing for us to do anyways 17:29:59 right? 17:32:08 until tc3 comes out, yup. 17:32:17 #topic (1148087) Fedora 21 Alpha ISO images fail to boot on some systems when written to optical media (boot stops or reboots after ISOLINUX string displayed) 17:32:20 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1148087 17:32:23 #info Accepted Blocker, syslinux, NEW 17:32:48 I just reproduced this 17:33:16 if I could speed up the reboot cycle I'd have a nice, expensive blue strobe light 17:35:45 ah, so we have another reproducer 17:35:49 still nowhere near pjones 17:35:56 yeah 17:36:00 maybe i'll just have to mail him one of my laptops... 17:36:07 borrowed this machine from tim 17:37:58 do we need a poke for this or just waiting on getting pjones a machine that repros it? 17:40:44 that's pretty much it 17:40:52 kk 17:40:56 last one then :) 17:40:58 #topic (1099299) fedup fails to upgrade f20 to rawhide - infinite loop when starting udev 17:41:02 #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1099299 17:41:04 #info Accepted Blocker, systemd, NEW 17:44:16 looks like we should check with systemd maintainers that they're on this 17:44:39 yeah 17:45:23 well, that's it 17:46:41 got anything else? 17:46:50 * roshi is gonna end the meeting 17:47:53 nup 17:48:05 kk 17:48:09 #endmeeting