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#fedora-blocker-review: f19final-blocker-review-6
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Meeting started by tflink at 16:01:57 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call  (tflink, 16:01:58)

* Introduction  (tflink, 16:05:56)
  * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
    nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
    the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze
    exception bugs.  (tflink, 16:06:02)
  * We'll be following the process outlined at:  (tflink, 16:06:08)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
    (tflink, 16:06:08)
  * The bugs up for review today are available at:  (tflink, 16:06:14)
  * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current   (tflink,
    16:06:14)
  * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at:  (tflink,
    16:06:21)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Final_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:22)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Beta_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:24)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria
    (tflink, 16:06:27)
  * Up for review today, we have:  (tflink, 16:06:30)
  * 12 Proposed Blockers  (tflink, 16:06:35)
  * 11 Accepted Blockers  (tflink, 16:06:35)
  * 14 Proposed Freeze Exceptions  (tflink, 16:06:35)
  * 19 Accepted Freeze Exceptions  (tflink, 16:06:35)

* (971191) DVD install option unavailable in TUI  (tflink, 16:08:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971191   (tflink,
    16:08:28)
  * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:08:28)
  * devs are aware of this bug, waiting for update from them  (tflink,
    16:10:39)

* (968951) g-i-s created user's accounts and settings are copied to new
  users created after g-i-s completes but before a reboot  (tflink,
  16:11:24)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968951   (tflink,
    16:11:28)
  * Accepted Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW  (tflink, 16:11:30)
  * devs are aware of the problem and are working on a fix, nothing for
    us to do here  (tflink, 16:13:14)

* (969852) Software Update fails to update  (tflink, 16:13:27)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=969852   (tflink,
    16:13:27)
  * Accepted Blocker, gnome-packagekit, ASSIGNED  (tflink, 16:13:27)
  * devs are aware of the issue and are working on it - no significant
    updates yet  (tflink, 16:15:24)

* (958426) 19 Final TC1 x86_64 Desktop Live is oversized (larger than 1
  GB)  (tflink, 16:15:53)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=958426   (tflink,
    16:15:56)
  * Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW  (tflink, 16:15:59)
  * devs appear to be aware of the issue and are continuing to work on
    getting the image size under 1GB  (tflink, 16:17:25)

* (974643) console=<foo> not passed onto installed system  (tflink,
  16:20:26)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974643   (tflink,
    16:20:26)
  * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW  (tflink, 16:20:26)
  * LINK:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=761490&action=diff
    (adamw, 16:24:29)
  * AGREED: 974643 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - Serial
    console options are persisted for primary arch using grub and as
    such, this does not violate any release criteria and is not a
    blocker. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
    (tflink, 16:29:44)

* (974711) Drop HAL and beefy install 'ad banners' for F19 final(?)
  (tflink, 16:29:52)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974711   (tflink,
    16:29:55)
  * Proposed Blocker, fedora-logos, NEW  (tflink, 16:29:58)
  * AGREED: 974711 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is a very visable
    polish issue that can't be fixed with an update post-release.
    Waiting on feedback from design team before making a decision on
    blocker status.  (tflink, 16:41:43)

* (974063) Ignore Google documents without a thumbnail URI  (tflink,
  16:42:16)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974063   (tflink,
    16:42:16)
  * Proposed Blocker, gjs, ON_QA  (tflink, 16:42:16)
  * AGREED: 974063 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This does
    not violate any of the F19 release criteria (GNOME Documents works
    in most cases) and is thus rejected as a release blocking bug for
    F19 final. However, a tested fix would be considered past freeze.
    (tflink, 16:53:59)

* (974778) Wrong locale set by g-s-d with single quote  (tflink,
  16:54:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974778   (tflink,
    16:54:13)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-settings-daemon, MODIFIED  (tflink,
    16:54:13)
  * AGREED: 974778 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final
    release criterion for non-english installs: "All applications listed
    under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic
    functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use."
    (tflink, 17:04:34)

* (974038) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.8.3-1.fc19: wrapped_gobj_toggle_notify:
  Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP)
  (tflink, 17:04:41)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974038   (tflink,
    17:04:44)
  * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW  (tflink, 17:04:47)
  * AGREED: 974038 - RejectedBlocker - This doesn't seem to be happening
    often enough to justify blocking the release of F19. Please
    repropose as a blocker if more reports start coming in. If upstream
    is of the opinion that this is important, please propose as FE.
    (tflink, 17:17:32)

* (974032) bug reporting doesn't work from LiveCD  (tflink, 17:17:41)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974032   (tflink,
    17:17:41)
  * Proposed Blocker, python-meh, POST  (tflink, 17:17:41)
  * AGREED: 974032 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha
    release criterion for live installs: "The installer must be able to
    report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included."
    (tflink, 17:25:52)

* (974691) Since cleaning up from #974132, nothing gets written to
  /var/log/messages  (tflink, 17:26:03)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974691   (tflink,
    17:26:06)
  * Proposed Blocker, rsyslog, NEW  (tflink, 17:26:09)
  * LINK:
    http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#VARLOGLOGFILESANDDIRECTORIES
    (adamw, 17:31:33)
  * LINK:
    https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Packaging/LogFiles <--
    for 600 components ( which of like only 3 depend on rsyslogd ) is
    whats needed to fix this  (Viking-Ice, 17:33:45)
  * AGREED: 974691 - We need more data on how many people are affected
    by this bug and whether any of the listed workarounds work. Will
    revisit when more data is available.  (tflink, 17:37:21)

* (973849) SELinux is preventing /usr/libexec/accounts-daemon from
  'read' accesses on the directory /var/log.  (tflink, 17:38:36)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=973849   (tflink,
    17:38:39)
  * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, ON_QA  (tflink, 17:38:42)
  * AGREED: 973849 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 final
    release criterion: "In most cases, there must be no SELinux 'AVC:
    denied' messages or abrt crash notifications on initial boot and
    subsequent login (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ)"  (tflink, 17:43:58)

* (974784) live image composing in koji broken  (tflink, 17:44:13)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974784   (tflink,
    17:44:13)
  * Proposed Blocker, system-config-keyboard, NEW  (tflink, 17:44:13)
  * AGREED: 974784 - AcceptedBlocker - This blocks the process for
    creating live images and we can't continue testing until it is
    fixed. Thus, accepted as a release blocking bug for F19 final.
    (tflink, 17:48:21)

* (974198) missing letters on various anaconda screens with spice
  graphics  (tflink, 17:48:33)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=974198   (tflink,
    17:48:36)
  * Proposed Blocker, virt-manager, NEW  (tflink, 17:48:39)
  * LINK:
    http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2013-06-17_17_58_57-TLblAN5e.png
    (Viking-Ice, 18:03:24)
  * AGREED: 974198 - AcceptedBlocker - While the cause is still not 100%
    clear, this appears to be serious and widespread enough to justify
    blocker status. Violates the following F19 release criterion for
    live installs in a VM using spice/qxl (installation screens are
    garbled, making the process difficult if not impossible): "The
    installer must be able to complete an installation using all
    supported interfaces"  (tflink, 18:12:43)

* (924162) A software selection with dependency errors is allowed to
  proceed if the dependency check runs twice  (tflink, 18:12:59)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162   (tflink,
    18:13:02)
  * Proposed Blocker, yum, NEW  (tflink, 18:13:05)
  * AGREED: 924162 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha
    release criteria for netinstalls when the main repos have depsolving
    errors, leading to a broken install: "When doing a graphical install
    using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to
    install each of the release blocking desktops, as well as the
    minimal package set."  (tflink, 18:36:54)

* (968808) Interlingua installs result in errors setting locale and
  apparent failure of g-i-s to create a user account  (tflink, 18:43:53)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=968808   (tflink,
    18:43:56)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, MODIFIED  (tflink, 18:43:58)
  * AGREED: 968808 - AcceptedFreezeException - Locale issues
    post-install can be pretty ugly and would be best to fix before
    release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze.  (tflink,
    18:51:10)

* (971050) initial-setup runs to completion on F19-TC1 but does not make
  any changes  (tflink, 18:51:20)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971050   (tflink,
    18:51:23)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, initial-setup, POST  (tflink, 18:51:26)
  * AGREED: 971050 - AcceptedFreezeException - This causes problems in
    the initial configuration of the ARM images and would be nice to fix
    prior to release. A tested fix would be considered after freeze.
    (tflink, 18:59:39)

* (971117) No processing for event 'report_Uploader' is defined
  (tflink, 19:00:47)
  * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=971117   (tflink,
    19:00:50)
  * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libreport, ON_QA  (tflink, 19:00:52)
  * AGREED: 971117 - AcceptedFreezeException - The file reporter is not
    required to work in the event of an installer traceback but it can
    be rather useful and can't be fixed with a post-release update. A
    tested fix would be considered after freeze.  (tflink, 19:03:40)

* Open Floor  (tflink, 19:06:33)

Meeting ended at 19:18:40 UTC.




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