01:59:42 <mchua> #startmeeting
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01:59:44 <mchua> #chair VileGent StabbyMc
01:59:44 <zodbot> Current chairs: StabbyMc VileGent mchua
01:59:56 <mchua> Er... anyone know a better way to capture this backlog other than copypasting it all back in?
02:00:01 <StabbyMc> mchua: that's for individual ambassadors asking for things like pens, amb kits, extra media, etc.
02:00:07 <VileGent> nope
02:00:28 <mchua> #info Context: we're discussing if there's a better way to handle budget requests than "someone needs to always be on the alert to tackle Max or Mel," which is very non bus/raptor proof
02:00:45 <StabbyMc> mchua: we've bee hitting you and max for ordering bulk pens/buttons/stickers, etc.  Then we mail them to the regional ambassadors.
02:01:06 <StabbyMc> The other ambassadors then use trac to ask for those items that they need, which are shipped to them by the regionals.
02:01:08 <mchua> #idea Trac queue with a workflow state called "apply RH credit card" so Max/Mel/whoever can filter for that every $timeperiod and process them en masse, and Ambassadors know when that processing happens (and so can predict when things will be paid-for).
02:01:36 <mchua> StabbyMc: Okay - any reason the same trac couldn't be used to tell Max and myself "dudes, you own these tickets, pay for them"?
02:01:37 <VileGent> mchua, FAmNA budget comes down to us to spend, so we would need a different trac for this
02:01:42 <mchua> Hrm
02:01:56 <StabbyMc> mchua: mostly getting you and max to pay attention to said tickets I suppose.
02:02:06 <mchua> Honestly, I don't care *where* the queue is, but a queue would help.
02:02:16 <mchua> Because it's a "get RH to pay for things" queue
02:02:31 <mchua> not a separate "Max queue" or "Mel queue" (i.e. Max and I have equivalent functionality in this regard)
02:02:53 <mchua> StabbyMc: then you could ping us and say "hey, process everything in this queue now plz" instead of having to spend so long filling us in, forwarding emails, etc.
02:03:01 <mchua> and it would also be easy to tell what was taken care of and what wasn't
02:03:11 <mchua> letting the software do that sort of data management, essentially.
02:03:23 <StabbyMc> mchua: not being the trac admin, I don't know how easy that would be to set-up or triage :-)
02:03:31 <VileGent> so what would you need for such request
02:03:43 <mchua> VileGent: Not much, really. An easy way to do it would be this way:
02:03:56 <mchua> (1) add a keyword ("needcreditcard") to the ticket (there's already a keyword box)
02:04:14 <mchua> ...that's it. Then Max or I would just query for tickets with that keyword (and you could remind us to do it).
02:04:54 <mchua> Anyone could query for tickets with that keyword, for that matter, and see all the budget requests lined up and waiting to have credit card applied, so people could see the status of individual orders, no problem.
02:04:57 <VileGent> well i mean invoice, contact info
02:05:06 <mchua> Isn't that trac instance closed?
02:05:10 <mchua> I mean, invite-only?
02:05:21 <mchua> I can't see the tickets in https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/, anyway.
02:05:30 <VileGent> we could create one
02:09:45 <VileGent> mchua,  i think we need to bring this up in our biweekly meeting
02:10:47 <mchua> VileGent: Ok - would you like me to be around for that?
02:10:53 <mchua> That's... 2 weeks from today, iirc?
02:10:54 <rbergeron> mchua - you can't
02:10:56 <rbergeron> it's next week
02:10:59 <rbergeron> on tuesday night
02:11:03 <rbergeron> oh wait - we don't have anything tuesday night
02:11:06 <rbergeron> or is that the night of your BOF?
02:11:10 <rbergeron> your bof is monday, right?
02:11:11 <lcafiero> Right. Some of us might not be available since we'll be at OSCON
02:11:19 <mchua> rbergeron: Yeah, TOS BoF is Monday.
02:11:20 <lcafiero> BOF is Wednesday, I think
02:11:24 * lcafiero has to check
02:11:31 <lcafiero> The Fedora BOF?
02:11:34 <rbergeron> no
02:11:36 <mchua> rbergeron: oh shoot... did we double-schedule BoFs?
02:11:37 <lcafiero> Oh.
02:11:42 <rbergeron> TOS bof is monday
02:11:44 <rbergeron> mktg bof is wed
02:11:44 * mchua hurriedly checks marketing bof
02:11:46 <rbergeron> fedora bof is thursday
02:11:50 <mchua> THANK GOD
02:11:51 <mchua> okay
02:11:52 <lcafiero> Right.
02:12:00 * mchua had a panic moment there.
02:12:04 <mchua> Phew.
02:12:12 <mchua> So yeah, I should be able to make Tuesday... when?
02:12:12 <rbergeron> i expect everyone's moral support, and to lie to me a lot if i fail miserably. :)
02:12:16 <rbergeron> 6pm
02:12:24 <mchua> rbergeron: is that pacific time?
02:12:26 * lcafiero will be driving to Portland
02:12:26 <rbergeron> yse
02:12:28 <rbergeron> yes
02:12:35 <mchua> rbergeron: you are teh awesum. thank you!
02:12:37 * mchua adds to calendar
02:12:40 <mchua> right here?
02:12:43 <rbergeron> mchua: we can sit in together
02:12:46 <mchua> yay!
02:12:48 <VileGent> so lets put a discuss a trac instance on the agenda for the meeting
02:12:49 <rbergeron> WOOT
02:12:54 <mchua> VileGent: how to request agenda item?
02:14:14 * lcafiero impersonates VileGent -- go to the meeting page and add it.
02:14:28 <lcafiero> I always go to the ambassador wiki and go to the meeting link
02:14:36 <lcafiero> I don't have the page at my fingertips
02:14:45 <VileGent> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-7-7
02:15:21 <VileGent> that has the wrong date
02:15:56 <lcafiero> Right, but there's going to be a 7/21 sooner or later . . .
02:17:03 <VileGent> StabbyMc,  oh StabbyMc
02:17:28 <lcafiero> heh
02:17:38 <VileGent> his meeting
02:17:47 <mchua> VileGent: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-7-21 exists now.
02:18:37 <mchua> And it's on my schedule, w00t.
02:18:50 <mchua> And I will, additionally, be watchful for rrix pinging me about buttons.
02:18:54 <mchua> thankee, VileGent.
02:19:01 <lcafiero> make sure it's tuessday since the meeting is wednesday at 0100 UTC
02:19:15 <lcafiero> tuessday = tuesday as in 7/20
02:19:38 <lcafiero> Wednesday 0100 = Tuesday 1800 Pacific time
02:19:57 <lcafiero> I think
02:20:09 <tertl3> i want to ambassador
02:20:20 <tertl3> can I be one?
02:21:01 <VileGent> tertl3,  yep i linked you to the page to get started earlier today for you to get started
02:21:15 <tertl3> oh yeah
02:21:31 <tertl3> VileGent, is that a mailing list
02:21:36 <VileGent> so the question is do you want to be one
02:22:04 <lcafiero> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Joining_Ambassadors
02:22:18 <lcafiero> tertl3 ^^^
02:24:11 <tertl3> thanks
02:24:22 <tertl3> why is the age limit 13?
02:24:42 <VileGent> federal law
02:25:41 <VileGent> tertl3,  are you under 13?
02:25:47 <tertl3> no
02:25:50 <VileGent> ok
02:26:17 <tertl3> 27 or 28, i cant remember :)
02:26:22 <inode0> mchua: this will be less painful for you when one of us gets a CC - then more pain for one of us instead
02:26:27 <VileGent> where do you live
02:27:00 <mchua> inode0: /me grins. the prepaids?
02:27:07 <inode0> no
02:27:28 <mchua> oh!
02:27:31 <mchua> #endmeeting