00:24:11 <quaid> #startmeeting 00:24:13 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Feb 6 00:24:11 2010 UTC. The chair is quaid. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:24:15 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:24:20 <quaid> we are a loggin' 00:24:25 <lcafiero> woo hoo 00:24:26 <quaid> #chair vwbusguy lcafiero VileGent 00:24:27 <zodbot> Current chairs: VileGent lcafiero quaid vwbusguy 00:24:40 <quaid> that means you all can use e.g. #link or #topic to share the burden :) 00:24:45 <lcafiero> Run that link by me again, quaid? 00:24:50 <quaid> look up 00:25:00 <quaid> about 8 lines ago 00:25:01 <lcafiero> yeah, but it doesn't "link" 00:25:08 <lcafiero> you have a . before the h 00:25:15 <lcafiero> I'll just copy -- hang on 00:25:18 <quaid> http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:25:27 <quaid> the .messes it up huh? 00:25:29 <quaid> http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 00:25:30 <quaid> there 00:25:34 <lcafiero> I guess 00:25:42 <quaid> # http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 00:25:44 <quaid> :) 00:25:48 <quaid> #link http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot 00:25:51 <quaid> anyway, the real link is ... 00:26:00 <quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_8x_planning_meeting-01 00:26:04 <quaid> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_8x_planning_meeting-01 00:26:08 * quaid still learning :) 00:26:16 <lcafiero> Got it. Thanks. 00:26:17 <quaid> sorry, lcafiero was confused for a moment about what you meant 00:26:29 <lcafiero> What to do for the FAD? 00:26:37 <quaid> that's probably the big one 00:26:43 <quaid> I could use help with the Summer coding 00:26:49 <lcafiero> Max mentioned something about Zikula 00:26:50 <quaid> and it's pretty important 00:26:51 <VileGent> lcafiero, #link #action are the main ones you need 00:27:00 <lcafiero> Or summer coding 00:27:05 <quaid> I talked with some folks, Zikula isn't going to be able to use us aiui 00:27:25 <quaid> so the deal with summer coding ... it's a SIG that is focused on the Google Summer of Code 00:27:31 <quaid> and I have been behind on getting it moving 00:27:35 <VileGent> then summer codeing 00:27:40 <quaid> it's important, too 00:27:43 <lcafiero> Summer coding 00:27:58 <quaid> #link http://iquaid.org/2009/11/04/summer-coding-benefits-to-fedora-project-and-jboss-org/ 00:28:21 <quaid> so we met with some folks and have a mailing list but ... no one else is doing as much with it 00:28:25 * quaid gets some more inks 00:28:42 <quaid> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Summer_Coding_SIG 00:28:42 <vwbusguy> so that will be the focus for FAD? 00:28:48 <quaid> but ... 00:28:52 <quaid> if people don't want to do that, it sucks :) 00:29:09 <quaid> I guess ... 00:29:14 <quaid> if I can convince all of you here that it's a good idea 00:29:16 <VileGent> quaid, why shouldnt we work on that if it needs attention 00:29:21 <quaid> then that's a majority of attendees so far :) 00:29:30 <quaid> VileGent: I appreciate that! 00:29:35 <lcafiero> Well, we'll announce it, and SCaLE will have a press release going out on it as soon as we decide what it will be. 00:29:41 * lcafiero has that on the highest authority 00:29:42 <quaid> I just didn't want my priorities to become our priorities de facto 00:29:50 <quaid> lcafiero: cool! 00:29:54 <quaid> ok, so ... 00:30:02 <quaid> vwbusguy: what do you think? 00:30:54 <VileGent> he was grabbing something to test 00:30:54 <vwbusguy> sounds fine to me if that's what others want to do 00:31:10 <vwbusguy> (fighting pyjigdo on the side) 00:31:23 <VileGent> screw pyjigdo use jigdo 00:31:40 <herlo> yeah, because pyjigdo sucks 00:31:49 <herlo> because well, it's python </sarcasm> 00:31:54 <vwbusguy> quaid, but I'm fine with SoC stuff 00:32:17 <VileGent> herlo no the maintainer hasnt had time to iron out some bugs 00:33:12 <VileGent> at this point we will have f12 re-spins at SCALE 00:33:37 <quaid> whee! 00:33:43 <quaid> sounds good to me 00:33:46 <vwbusguy> quaid, wan't there originally going to be some font packaging? 00:33:54 <quaid> vwbusguy: that was last year? 00:34:12 <quaid> #action quaid to clean-up Summer Coding SIG pages to make it clear what needs doing for FAD 00:34:16 <lcafiero> I proposed that -- that was last year. 00:34:22 <lcafiero> +1 00:35:13 <quaid> #action quaid and lcafiero to collaborate on materials for the press release 00:35:57 <lcafiero> OK -- will need it quickly, although for SCALE's purposes, just announcing what we're doing and where (Kennedy room, I believe), will suffice 00:37:08 <lcafiero> Booth details? 00:37:42 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, I sent that info in the email 00:38:03 <VileGent> you did?? 00:38:19 <VileGent> only email i saw was the code to register for SCALE 00:38:22 <lcafiero> Regarding codes and such, right, vwbusguy? 00:39:06 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, hmm, I have our booth info 00:39:14 <vwbusguy> pulling up the doc now 00:39:55 <vwbusguy> booth 43 00:40:02 <lcafiero> Right. 00:40:07 <quaid> hmm 00:40:09 <VileGent> vwbusguy, on the wiki page would be the best please 00:40:14 <quaid> since we are there ... 00:40:24 <quaid> #topic booth position discussion ... 00:40:26 <vwbusguy> 1 500W outlet, 1 6' table w/ Ethernet Port 00:40:42 <vwbusguy> we're in the Westin Grand Ballroom 00:40:46 * quaid guesses zodbot doesn't have auth to change the topic here 00:40:53 * quaid hopes it doesn't matter 00:40:59 <vwbusguy> VileGent, ok 00:41:01 <quaid> vwbusguy: does it show a map? 00:41:16 <quaid> last year we were in the far back row ... 00:41:26 <quaid> we discussed blue Fedora logo balloons 00:41:40 <vwbusguy> quaid, yes 00:42:04 <vwbusguy> map ison page 7 00:42:06 <VileGent> have the vertical banners been shipped yet 00:42:13 <quaid> we may want to take care about sharing that on the wiki if it's not clearly licensed to do so 00:42:15 <vwbusguy> jds2001 ? 00:42:29 <vwbusguy> last I talked to jds2001 they were en route, but haven't made it here yet 00:42:44 <lcafiero> Jon Stanley 00:42:56 <inode0> we should get fedora balloons 00:43:05 <lcafiero> The event box is fairly low on swag. 00:43:09 <vwbusguy> inode0 Blue and White ones 00:43:14 <vwbusguy> inode0, with horseshoes on them 00:43:16 <quaid> ok, 43 is definitely in the thick of things 00:43:28 <VileGent> yep 00:43:53 <quaid> lcafiero: I think we have a topic in the agenda for that 00:43:56 <VileGent> you guys have a horizonial banner correct 00:44:03 <quaid> we did :) 00:44:03 <vwbusguy> quaid, we can't share that on the wiki as it has our registration codes 00:44:42 <quaid> vwbusguy: yeah, if you could just put the booth number, position (middle row, right side, facing entrace?) 00:45:01 <vwbusguy> quaid, sure 00:45:07 <vwbusguy> #action update wiki with booth info 00:45:53 <VileGent> trip to home depot for some 2" pvc pipe and we could put the h banner in the air 00:46:13 <vwbusguy> or steal the PVC out of Ubuntu's 00:46:20 <lcafiero> h banner? 00:46:28 <vwbusguy> h = horizontal 00:46:31 <lcafiero> Oh. 00:46:56 <lcafiero> Why would we do that? It worked fine on the floor at UTOSC. 00:47:11 <lcafiero> Oh wait. 00:47:25 <lcafiero> A horizontal banner and a vertical one, too? 00:48:01 <VileGent> brainstroming what we can do if we cant get ballons 00:48:07 <lcafiero> Oh. 00:48:10 <lcafiero> I missed that. 00:48:10 <quaid> we can get blue balloons 00:48:32 <vwbusguy> quaid, just blue or blue with Fedora logo? 00:48:34 <quaid> hmm ... pvc pipe for h banner is an idea 00:48:45 <quaid> #idea pvc pipe for h banner 00:48:52 <quaid> vwbusguy: just blue == can do 00:49:11 <quaid> they could be used to hold a logo on $material 00:49:23 <quaid> I don't want to be obnoxious ... 00:49:32 <quaid> I just felt buried last year 00:49:47 <lcafiero> We didn't have the vertical banners last year. 00:49:51 <lcafiero> I think that'll make a difference 00:50:38 <quaid> word 00:50:41 <quaid> and the position helps 00:50:46 <VileGent> 4 x 2' long 4 tees 2 90 degree pieces 2 2" pieces 2 6' pieces 00:50:48 * quaid shuts up about that now 00:51:04 <quaid> what else is left to do for the booth? 00:51:20 <lcafiero> heh 00:51:20 <VileGent> 2 X how high you want to go 00:51:24 <quaid> #action gather together Fedora + Red Hat + Sugar(?) talks to promote on our handout 00:51:29 <vwbusguy> OLPC's and presentation laptops 00:51:43 <quaid> what's the networking situation? 00:51:48 <vwbusguy> one ethernet port 00:51:56 <vwbusguy> and shared wireless 00:52:07 <lcafiero> we have a router in the event box. 00:52:10 <VileGent> box has and i will be packing as well 00:52:13 <vwbusguy> of course we could also share the ethernet connection with NetworkManager 00:52:46 <VileGent> vwbusguy, the location may not like us running wireless 00:53:03 <vwbusguy> true, true 00:53:08 <vwbusguy> oh, and food 00:53:19 <vwbusguy> they don't like people bringing in food either 00:53:28 <vwbusguy> there are several eateries within walking distance though 00:53:53 <VileGent> hopefully there is a drink machine close by 00:54:15 <quaid> ok, we'll put up our own hub+wifi regardless 00:54:21 <quaid> so we can have fast LAN in the booth 00:54:33 <quaid> note: I hate wire spaghetti 00:54:38 <vwbusguy> lol 00:54:38 <VileGent> and i will have my portable mirror 00:54:39 <lcafiero> Right -- we had an issue with that last year. We can bring food into our rooms, but not into the Kennedy Room for the FAD. 00:55:07 <lcafiero> So I propose we all wear trenchcoats and smuggle the bagles and coffee in. 00:55:32 <lcafiero> Also, hardware -- I will be bringing power strips and extension cords so we aren't charged an arm and a leg like we were last year 00:55:54 <quaid> ok, that's the FAD room discussion ... 00:55:58 <quaid> are we done with the booth? 00:55:59 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, at least beer, if we're going to be coding 00:56:13 <quaid> that works 00:56:23 <quaid> I'll drive a van to the FAD dinner :) 00:56:38 <vwbusguy> I'll have my jeep as well 00:56:48 <lcafiero> Oh, sorry 00:56:53 <quaid> not if you are drinking on Friday :) 00:57:04 <quaid> lcafiero: no worries, I see we might need to move on 00:57:07 <quaid> so ... 00:57:10 <quaid> #topic FAD needs 00:57:13 <quaid> we have a topic 00:57:23 <quaid> wires and such 00:57:23 * lcafiero has a hard time keeping track of this and working at the same time 00:57:28 <quaid> lcafiero: aye 00:57:31 <vwbusguy> lol @ lcafiero 00:57:36 <quaid> it would help if the topic were actually changed 00:57:52 <vwbusguy> ah, requires op 00:58:14 <quaid> ok 00:58:22 <VileGent> well we could have went into meeting-1 00:58:23 <quaid> yeah, zodbot don't have that 00:58:26 <quaid> we could 00:58:32 <quaid> but we're here now :) 00:58:42 <quaid> so, FAD needs? 00:58:44 <VileGent> yes 00:58:57 <quaid> food ... last year I did shoppiing before leaving Santa Cruz 00:59:08 <quaid> and spread it on the table, and promptly got in trouble 00:59:27 <quaid> but we can't NOT have food for our teams 00:59:37 <quaid> so if we dispersed food to each person's personal bag 00:59:49 <quaid> they can't object to "brown bag lunch" 00:59:54 <quaid> it's not as friendly ... 01:00:08 <quaid> and try for a clear lunch break out in the world 01:00:25 * quaid has a backpack ... with a big box of coffee in it 01:00:35 <vwbusguy> coffee is requires 01:00:38 <vwbusguy> *required 01:00:54 <vwbusguy> but a definitely lunch time will probably have to be the way to go 01:00:55 <quaid> #action quaid to shop for food before he leaves hometown 01:01:07 <VileGent> like i said i hope they have a drink machine 01:01:08 <quaid> #action FAD schedule needs to be created on webpage 01:01:17 <quaid> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_8x_2010_FAD 01:01:30 <quaid> I'm going to dump a few things from here there right now 01:02:01 <lcafiero> And bring extension cords and power strips (see above) 01:02:04 * lcafiero takes a bow 01:04:09 <quaid> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCALE_8x_2010_FAD#Schedule 01:04:11 <quaid> how does that sound 01:04:14 * quaid adds wires and stuff now 01:04:16 <lcafiero> The room has wireless and I think it has a projector 01:04:35 <quaid> yeah, the wireless was weird last year, but it did work for spurts 01:04:44 <quaid> I'm sure the organizers were aware and will be on that 01:04:56 <quaid> but that's why having our own network is key so we can work offline 01:04:57 <quaid> oh! 01:05:01 <quaid> can anyone bring 01:05:05 <quaid> a repo of F12 and Rawhide 01:05:24 <quaid> it needs to be full ideally so we can do spins locally 01:05:26 <vwbusguy> why rawhide? 01:05:38 <VileGent> quaid, i will have a portable mirror 01:05:42 <quaid> if rawhide is testable ... 01:05:59 <quaid> then we can give out USB keys with a live rawhide to test :) 01:06:03 <quaid> VileGent: thank you 01:06:11 <VileGent> i am not syncing rawhide but i can 01:06:24 <quaid> #action VileGent will bring the portable mirror of F12 updates, rawhide too if possible 01:07:28 <quaid> ok, anything more on the FAD? 01:07:42 <quaid> I can be FAD owner 01:07:57 <vwbusguy> that is fine with me 01:08:18 * quaid wouldn't shove this one on anyone anyway :) 01:08:25 <vwbusguy> lol 01:08:32 <quaid> I'll note the assignments there so we can take turns with "door monitor" 01:09:00 <quaid> people drop by and need to get acclimated or sorted out; it's disruptive to the getting done of things of the people involved in that are also doing the door 01:09:27 <quaid> but last year the door was really important, good chance to introduce people to the project, etc. 01:10:27 <lcafiero> I can do that, as I did last year. 01:10:44 <quaid> we can also rotate 01:10:53 <lcafiero> OK 01:11:02 <quaid> let's have you to start then :) 01:11:29 <lcafiero> OK, but bear in mind you and I have to go to WIOS at 10:30, I think. 01:11:47 <VileGent> we can see what shows up, if someone shows up needing help with fedora i can help them 01:12:14 <quaid> lcafiero: oh yeah 01:12:19 <quaid> I think that's 10 to 10:50 01:12:29 * vwbusguy will be right back 01:12:31 * quaid smacks himself in the head 01:12:40 <quaid> well, if I can leave the tasks clear enough 01:12:45 <quaid> stuff can happen without me there :) 01:13:02 <quaid> I'm going to bump the schedule back a bit 01:13:15 <quaid> or is it too gross to suggest we start before 9? 01:13:19 <lcafiero> Actually, we can get folks started and then turn it over to capable hands . . . . 01:13:24 <quaid> yes 01:14:21 <VileGent> what is the kennedy room times 01:14:33 <lcafiero> I don't think so -- but I'm always up way before 9 01:14:42 * quaid hopes we can get in early even if it means official signing in and such isn't occuring 01:15:04 <quaid> this year I can leave girls in the hands of Debbie, so I'll have incentive to get up and out early :) 01:15:27 <VileGent> we will see about how jet lagged i am but 9 should be ok 01:15:57 <lcafiero> Registration starts at 8, so there's no reason why folks can't go straight up to Kennedy after that. 01:16:15 <lcafiero> Let me check with Gareth at #scale 01:16:34 <quaid> well, I put on an 8:30 start now 01:16:39 <quaid> and see if that works in real time :) 01:16:54 * herlo notes he will not be in until Friday night and not to count on him... 01:17:01 <quaid> herlo: we'll miss ya! 01:17:08 <quaid> herlo: when do you land? 01:17:11 <lcafiero> Dang. 01:17:24 <herlo> quaid: driving 01:17:38 <herlo> leaving here abt 3pm and getting there about 1-2am 01:17:43 <quaid> vwbusguy: did you have an ideas of where to eat for dinner on Friday? or where to look for ideas? 01:17:52 <quaid> herlo: ah! 01:17:57 <quaid> see you at the pool then 01:18:31 <herlo> yeah! at 3am :) 01:18:32 <quaid> that's all the FAD topics I see/think of 01:18:44 * quaid needs his beauty sleep Friday night 01:19:22 <herlo> quaid: ahh :( 01:19:30 <quaid> #action vwbusguy to find somewhere for FAD dinner or tell someone else to find somewhere -- before the Friday :) 01:19:36 <herlo> btw, good luck on your keynote, I'll be there with my heckling bells on 01:19:46 <herlo> :) 01:19:48 <quaid> herlo: send an sms to me, I'll have my phone off if I'm asleep :) 01:19:52 <quaid> sweet! 01:20:14 <quaid> #topic Sat night events? 01:20:17 <herlo> quaid: I will do so, but I don't have your phone number anymore, since I changed phones... 01:20:27 <quaid> is there a birds of a feather type thing or something or should we form a karaoke party or something? 01:20:31 <herlo> quaid: we should take the kiddos to something 01:20:39 <quaid> herlo: you have the same phone number? 01:20:47 <herlo> yeah 01:20:58 <herlo> and wear them out more :) 01:21:18 * quaid buzzes herlo's phone 01:21:40 <herlo> beeped, rather :) 01:21:51 <VileGent> legolannd LOL 01:21:54 <quaid> whatever tickles ya 01:21:58 <quaid> VileGent: for dinner? 01:22:02 <quaid> oh Sat! 01:22:03 <quaid> ooooh 01:22:09 <quaid> VileGent: how far is legoland? 01:22:23 <VileGent> no idea 01:22:38 <herlo> quaid: it's a bit of a distance away 01:22:45 <lcafiero> Yeah, it's far. 01:22:45 <quaid> :( 01:23:00 <lcafiero> You know, last year the girls couldn't be dragged from the pool 01:23:11 <VileGent> quaid, saturday i am flying out on the redeye 01:23:24 <VileGent> 10:55 01:23:41 <quaid> ok 01:23:45 <VileGent> so i need to go to the airport 830ish 01:24:02 <lcafiero> Right -- there should be a shuttle from the hotel. 01:24:03 <tatica> hi :) 01:24:06 <quaid> #link 01:24:12 <quaid> #link http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/special-events/birds-feather 01:24:16 <quaid> hi tatica 01:24:32 <quaid> there are rooms available 01:24:38 <tatica> oh sorry... you're in a meeting 01:24:47 <VileGent> no tatica 01:24:55 <quaid> we could get one for 8 to 10 01:25:17 <lcafiero> stick around tatica. 01:25:34 <quaid> tatica: technically, yes, but we hijacked the channel, so you are welcome in the social sense, too :) 01:26:08 <quaid> does anyone want to do something *more* on Saturday? 01:26:15 <quaid> we could invite people all day on Saturday 01:26:22 <quaid> I could mention it at the end of the keynote :) 01:26:24 <lcafiero> OK, I'm told registration starts at 8 on Friday and we can move into the room at 8:01. 01:26:27 <quaid> so we might actually get attendees :D 01:26:37 <quaid> and do a user-/genera-audience focus 01:26:57 <quaid> lcafiero: ok, I'll be down for breakfast by 7:30 to bum rush the room 01:27:19 <quaid> #topic Saturday night BoF? 01:27:27 <tatica> lol 01:27:47 <quaid> tatica: yeah! zodbot doesn't have ops here, but I bet it shows up in the log output later :D :D 01:28:20 <quaid> herlo lcafiero VileGent vwbusguy - <3 it? h8 it? 01:28:34 * quaid mixes *icons 01:29:18 <lcafiero> love/hate what? 01:29:24 <lcafiero> zodbot or BoF? 01:29:26 <herlo> quaid: Saturday Bof? 01:29:29 <quaid> yes 01:29:29 <lcafiero> Oh 01:29:31 <quaid> the BoF 01:29:39 <herlo> all day bof? 01:29:48 <quaid> Sat 8 pm to 10 pm 01:30:01 <quaid> #link http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/special-events/birds-feather 01:30:34 <quaid> Midway or Logan 01:30:41 <quaid> I vote Logan because then we maybe can get in early 01:31:03 <VileGent> well i dont think i have an opinion on the bof because i will be heading for the airport 01:31:03 <lcafiero> Oh, right. Logan would be good. 01:31:11 <quaid> VileGent: gotcha 01:31:18 <quaid> VileGent: but it's the last place you'll be for the night 01:31:28 <quaid> session close at 7 01:31:32 <herlo> oh, well I'm fine with that time for a bof 01:31:34 <quaid> so there is tight timing for dinner 01:31:39 <quaid> we can order in pizza :) 01:31:43 <herlo> let's do that 01:31:45 <quaid> and sort out the where-to-eat in real time 01:31:47 <herlo> kids will love it 01:31:49 <lcafiero> If they'll let us. 01:31:49 <quaid> word! 01:31:55 <herlo> lcafiero: to our rooms 01:31:59 <lcafiero> Oh. 01:32:00 <herlo> we can do that no matter what 01:32:04 <quaid> totes 01:32:04 <lcafiero> OK! YEAH! 01:32:07 <quaid> sweet 01:32:09 <herlo> so if they don't let us on the floor :) 01:32:13 * vwbusguy IS BACK 01:32:17 <vwbusguy> sorry, caps 01:32:18 <herlo> or we could eat it at the pool 01:32:20 <quaid> hey vwbusguy 01:32:37 <quaid> vwbusguy: open question "do we have a BoF on SAt night from after-7-pm to 10 pm" 01:32:42 <quaid> there is a room open from 8 to 10 01:32:45 <quaid> or the pool! 01:32:46 <vwbusguy> yesr 01:32:49 <quaid> dud 01:32:51 <VileGent> ok now back to my origional question 01:32:52 <quaid> dude! 01:32:57 <vwbusguy> We are near Santa Monica 01:33:02 <quaid> #idea BoF at the pool 01:33:06 <vwbusguy> so we could try some night-beach attraction 01:33:11 <vwbusguy> campfire? 01:33:15 <quaid> if we can get the wireless router by the window over the pool again ... 01:33:24 <vwbusguy> quick ?, what's a BoF 01:33:28 <quaid> birds of a feather 01:33:31 <lcafiero> Birds of a Feather 01:33:34 <quaid> it's a session where people 01:33:39 * lcafiero doesn't type as fast as quaid 01:33:39 <quaid> who are intersted in $something 01:33:43 <quaid> come to hear and talk about $something 01:33:55 <quaid> lcafiero: i skipped the caps key 01:33:59 <vwbusguy> ah 01:34:07 <quaid> vwbusguy: common at Linux shows 01:34:12 <vwbusguy> quaid, as far as dinner, maybe we could also find something in nearby Santa Monia 01:34:15 <vwbusguy> *Monica 01:34:33 <quaid> if you look at the sessions for SCALE, you'll see they are topical by free software stuff 01:34:36 * vwbusguy wishes we could find an excuse to go to Santa Monica beach during daylight at some point suring this 01:34:46 <quaid> vwbusguy: +1 to Santa Monica for Friday dinner 01:35:03 <quaid> vwbusguy: Sat. morning? 01:35:08 <quaid> Sunday after event close? 01:35:11 <quaid> sunday morning? 01:35:13 <vwbusguy> ugg, define morning 01:35:24 <quaid> lcafiero: we get to setup booths Friday night? 01:35:25 * vwbusguy is driving from Azusa, and is not a morning person :-) 01:35:48 <quaid> #link http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/conference-schedule-feb-19-2010 01:36:02 <quaid> registration Sat is 9 to 10 01:36:03 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, about what time do you have to get there last Friday? 01:36:05 <quaid> if we are all set Friday night 01:36:12 <quaid> then you don't need to show at the hotel until 9:45 01:36:20 <lcafiero> Eastern time 01:36:21 <lcafiero> :-) 01:36:26 <quaid> meaning you could head to the beach at 8 and have an hour :) 01:36:37 <vwbusguy> quaid, lol, you can if you want 01:36:44 <vwbusguy> quaid, I'll meet u at SCaLE at 9 01:36:48 * quaid lives near the beach 01:36:55 * vwbusguy lives near the mountains 01:37:03 <quaid> mountains are nice too :) 01:37:17 <quaid> ok ... 01:37:26 <quaid> anyone want to be the driver for the BoF? 01:37:45 <vwbusguy> my Jeep fits 4, depending on how you define "comfortably" 01:37:53 * quaid can do it but doesn't want to take all the fun stuff :) 01:38:14 <quaid> ah, by driver I mean, person taking responsibility to make it happen 01:38:40 <vwbusguy> so what all do we do during BoF again? 01:38:42 <quaid> email gareth@; get flyers done; make up some press release about it for the Fedora Marketing world; make us all blog about it; make sure ... 01:38:46 <vwbusguy> We had that at OLF last year iirc 01:38:47 <quaid> vwbusguy: good question 01:39:03 <quaid> typically ... from my own experience only ... 01:39:21 <quaid> it's a few people *from* $something, who are talking with anyone interested in $something 01:39:31 <VileGent> vwbusguy, we have a BOF at OLF if we have enough people 01:39:33 <quaid> it can be a panel format, one person, or a round discussion in the audience seats 01:39:51 <quaid> so it's going to always have one person who needs the open source definition made for them 01:39:55 <quaid> a few journalists potentially 01:40:04 <VileGent> round discussion about Fedora seems to be a good topic 01:40:16 <quaid> sometimes a person with a grief against Red Hat, Fedora, or some "part" of it 01:40:20 <quaid> (usually yum or rpm) 01:40:37 <quaid> ... and I'm skilled with that and willing to teach how it's done :) 01:40:51 <VileGent> quaid, havent had that experience yet 01:40:52 <quaid> and general range of people with a technical or business interest in Fedora 01:40:59 <quaid> VileGent: ;-) 01:41:12 <quaid> haven't had to handle people pissed off at Fedora for something? 01:41:17 <quaid> wow 01:41:28 <VileGent> at the booth yes but not in a BOF 01:42:05 <quaid> ah! 01:42:12 <VileGent> troll is a troll and i have been handleing them for years in #fedora 01:42:13 <quaid> yeah, it's usually not as bad at a BoF 01:42:21 <quaid> VileGent: I mean, yeah! that's what I thought :) 01:42:28 <lcafiero> We can set up on Friday. 01:42:38 <quaid> I just point out that it's better than it was in these days: 01:42:42 <quaid> #link http://lwn.net/Articles/83360/ 01:42:48 <quaid> sweet 01:42:58 <quaid> lcafiero and I are arriving on Thu. 01:43:05 <quaid> so can do early stuff on Fri and get that organized 01:43:16 <herlo> nice 01:44:44 <quaid> ok ... 01:44:54 <quaid> sorry for the long meeting folks 01:45:02 <quaid> we are through the important stuff I see on the agenda 01:45:04 <quaid> down to 01:45:06 <quaid> #topic Misc ... 01:45:18 <quaid> Misc. 01:45:19 <quaid> * What needs printing in advance? * What gear do we have, what do we need? * What are we shipping? * What might not make it? * Can we find something with the Sugar presenter(s)? 01:45:43 <VileGent> rooms 01:46:00 <quaid> what sort of rooms? 01:46:13 * quaid has a hotel room topic, too 01:46:15 <VileGent> hotel rooms question i posted hours ago 01:46:18 <quaid> oh, sorry! 01:46:21 <quaid> VileGent: please repeat 01:46:33 * quaid thinks he has been a blocker here so can unblock now perhaps 01:46:53 <VileGent> ok are we paying for the room and getting reembursted or the rooms going to be prepaid 01:47:11 <quaid> there we go 01:47:18 <quaid> that's what I was wanting to talk about too 01:47:35 <quaid> I don't think we have a way to prepay 01:47:39 <quaid> if we do, I could consider that 01:47:42 <vwbusguy> right 01:47:47 <quaid> but what happens is, the hotel doesn't charge until the end 01:47:59 <quaid> so they can nail you for moving the nuts can from the unmarked tray 01:48:05 * quaid true story ... 01:48:11 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, did Max followup on your email? 01:48:17 <quaid> I blocked that one 01:48:18 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, I just got CC'd on one this week 01:48:24 <quaid> the question was to me 01:48:33 <quaid> can I put it on my Red Hat credit card 01:48:34 <lcafiero> Right, the question was to quaid 01:48:59 * lcafiero confirms quaid's story 01:49:10 <quaid> and the answer is, no, I cannot, I have to put it on a personal card, which really means paying cash for it ... 01:49:19 <quaid> and I forget what the other option was? 01:49:26 <quaid> somehow get reimbursed from max? 01:49:30 <lcafiero> getting reimbursed from max 01:49:45 <quaid> ick 01:49:45 * vwbusguy wishes Max were alive and with us today 01:49:53 <quaid> well, we can do this part without him 01:49:56 <quaid> he's all FOSDEMy 01:50:08 <VileGent> yep 01:50:08 <quaid> so, if there is anyone a'swimming with cash and or credit 01:50:18 <quaid> and wants to cover their own ROOM 01:50:24 <quaid> and then wait for max/and or I to churn on it 01:50:27 <vwbusguy> since we have housing budgetted for SaLE it would be most nice if we could cover this without having to reimburse individuals 01:50:27 <quaid> you are welcome to 01:50:31 <vwbusguy> *SCaLE 01:50:31 <quaid> and should declare that now 01:50:43 <quaid> yep, I agree with vwbusguy 01:50:53 <quaid> I need to know what that fee is going to be 01:51:07 <lcafiero> It's $115 per room per night, the SCALE rate 01:51:09 <quaid> and of course, will beat on the bills with a hammer, as a I did last time 01:51:15 <vwbusguy> quaid, just curious as to why the RH card isn't an option? They don't take Am Express? 01:51:18 <quaid> x = rooms 01:51:24 <quaid> x = rooms count 01:51:27 <quaid> y = 115 01:51:38 <quaid> vwbusguy: I don't have an RH card :) 01:51:45 <vwbusguy> lol 01:51:53 <herlo> quaid: uh, y not 01:51:53 <quaid> and it's not AMEX any longer 01:52:01 <quaid> but it's a freaking DEBIT Visa 01:52:09 <vwbusguy> haha 01:52:10 * quaid pauses to let that sink in ... 01:52:18 <vwbusguy> Oh the times they are a-changing 01:52:46 <quaid> herlo: i fucked up with my expenses turnaround, biffed too many payment cycles that wouldn't have mattered if it were a credit card, and I paid The Price :) 01:53:07 * quaid declares that like an alcoholic, ifyouknowwhatImean :) 01:53:17 <quaid> um, so ... 01:53:26 <quaid> what is the room count? 01:53:32 <quaid> 4 a night? 01:53:41 <vwbusguy> you and herlo have nonos 01:53:48 <lcafiero> Calculating now, quaid. 01:53:53 <vwbusguy> VileGent is flying solo, as is lcafiero, correct 01:53:55 <lcafiero> Room for Vilegent 01:54:11 <lcafiero> I am staying as SCALE staff, so no room for me. 01:54:13 <vwbusguy> *ninos 01:54:15 <vwbusguy> not nonos 01:54:21 <lcafiero> herlo 01:54:26 <lcafiero> + brood 01:54:31 <lcafiero> quaid and brood 01:54:38 <vwbusguy> cool, so quaid + kids, herlo + kids, and VileGent 01:54:47 <quaid> 3 01:54:51 <vwbusguy> yes 01:54:52 <lcafiero> so that's three rooms times four nights 01:54:58 <lcafiero> no, three nights 01:55:00 <vwbusguy> I wouldn't mind staying there and saving some gas 01:55:02 <lcafiero> thurs, fri, sat 01:55:05 <quaid> sorry 4 01:55:12 <vwbusguy> but if we need to save some $$$, I can drive back and forth from Azusa 01:55:16 <VileGent> thur fri sat for me 01:55:17 <quaid> that's 3 nights 01:55:19 <herlo> vwbusguy: what's a nonos? 01:55:24 <vwbusguy> herlo, ninos 01:55:27 <vwbusguy> herlo, it's a typos 01:55:30 <lcafiero> would you room with VileGent, vwbusguy? 01:55:31 <herlo> oh... 01:55:32 <VileGent> vwbusguy, you can share the room with me 01:55:35 <vwbusguy> herlo, it means little boys in Californian 01:55:35 <herlo> saw that now 01:55:44 <herlo> vwbusguy: or little childrens 01:55:50 <lcafiero> three rooms, three nights, 01:55:52 * quaid tiene hijas 01:56:06 <lcafiero> 115 times 9 = 990? 01:56:14 * lcafiero did that off the top of my head. 01:56:21 <inode0> looks like it 01:56:21 <vwbusguy> VileGent, I might take u on that 01:56:29 <vwbusguy> *up 01:56:29 <quaid> I still count 4 01:56:32 <herlo> lcafiero: that's not right 01:56:41 <lcafiero> Yeah, that's why I got into journalism 01:56:43 <herlo> it's 990 + 5*9 01:56:52 <quaid> oh 01:56:56 <vwbusguy> lcafiero, how are you getting 4? 01:56:56 <herlo> because 110 * 9 is 990 01:56:57 <quaid> lcafiero is covered 01:56:58 <lcafiero> three rooms 01:57:03 <lcafiero> I didn't get four, I got three 01:57:09 * quaid got four 01:57:16 <quaid> I forgot SCALE is paying for lcafiero 01:57:17 * herlo got five 01:57:19 <lcafiero> VileGent/ vwbusguy in one, herlo, you 01:57:20 <vwbusguy> VileGent, you're flying back Saturday, correct? 01:57:32 <quaid> yeah, we keep the room open Sat though 01:57:48 * quaid will put the kids in there if he has to :) 01:57:48 <VileGent> yes 01:58:36 <quaid> ok, then 01:58:39 <VileGent> 115 x9 =1035 01:59:02 * herlo did the math right :) 01:59:04 <lcafiero> Right -- that's about what was budgeted, I think ($1100) 01:59:14 <VileGent> 12 x 115 1380 01:59:30 <lcafiero> How do you get 12? 01:59:47 <VileGent> 4 rooms 3 nite or 3 rooms for 4 nites 02:00:01 <lcafiero> Ah 02:00:41 <quaid> but we are doing 3x3 02:00:42 <quaid> yes? 02:00:58 <quaid> #action quaid to cover hotel room expenses 02:01:14 <quaid> I've got a new system 02:01:25 <quaid> I use my cell phone to photograph the receipt at the site of sale 02:01:29 <quaid> e.g. right at the dinner table 02:01:45 <quaid> then it's in my inbox to attach to the expense when I get next to the laptop :) 02:02:17 <quaid> so there is a set of questions in the agenda here ... 02:02:21 <vwbusguy-> back 02:02:27 <quaid> what needs printing in advance? 02:02:27 <vwbusguy-> jigdo-lite crashed and took everything with it 02:02:42 <quaid> * flyers - Sat speakers; BoF; ??? 02:02:47 <quaid> * banner ??? 02:02:58 <quaid> else? 02:03:16 <quaid> Do we need any new gear? 02:03:22 <quaid> * power cords or strips? 02:03:39 <quaid> #action quaid has too many ethernet cables and will repack event box with them 02:03:39 <lcafiero> power cords and strips -- let me check what we have and what we need, if anything 02:03:57 <lcafiero> we have a banner -- horizontal -- the one we used for OSCON 02:04:25 <lcafiero> flyers -- speakers and . . . . ? 02:04:44 <quaid> Media: 02:04:47 <quaid> * CDs/DVDs 02:04:53 <quaid> * USB keys (event box has a few) 02:05:06 <quaid> T shirts and other gear? 02:05:15 <lcafiero> Media: check (lots) 02:05:23 <vwbusguy> jds2001, ping 02:05:24 <lcafiero> That's all I have, though. No other swag. Need some 02:05:42 <lcafiero> I think I have about 10 white t-shirts and about 20 buttons. 02:05:51 <lcafiero> Need to do the loaves-and-fishes thing 02:05:55 <VileGent> hopefully some will be in the mail this week 02:06:09 <quaid> anything we need to ship to the event? 02:06:46 <lcafiero> We could ship the event box down to save on space in the van 02:06:51 <VileGent> vwbusguy, anywhere close to get a stack of 25 dvds close to the hotel? 02:06:58 * vwbusguy lost connection earlier, quaid what are our options for paying for hotel? 02:07:07 <VileGent> and i am bringing aobut 50 buttons 02:07:19 <quaid> lcafiero: that's an idea ... 02:07:21 <vwbusguy> VileGent, lemme look, close as in 10 minutes, probably 02:07:40 <quaid> vwbusguy: I'm covering hotel costs for 3 rooms, 3 nights @115 a night 02:07:40 <VileGent> cool i will want to burn re-spins on site 02:07:45 <lcafiero> I wish we still had the paint splotch Fedora shirts -- those are great 02:07:56 <quaid> I will fight to get bogus charges removed, but any movies you rent, you pay for with cash at the counter :) 02:08:00 <VileGent> i will be wearing mine 02:08:17 <lcafiero> We have the netbook set up to burn USB drives 02:08:27 <lcafiero> Or we need to update that (I can do that) 02:08:28 <vwbusguy> Fry's is nearby 02:08:34 <quaid> are we at risk for _anything_? 02:08:35 <vwbusguy> just to the south of LAX 02:08:38 <quaid> anything not making it? 02:09:08 <vwbusguy> quaid, I'm not paying for VileGent's pr0n 02:09:13 <lcafiero> I don't think so. I'll ship the box down 02:09:16 <quaid> vwbusguy: just don't even go there :) 02:09:18 <lcafiero> I'll pick that up for you VileGent 02:09:19 <lcafiero> :-) 02:09:20 <vwbusguy> haha 02:09:29 <quaid> no shrimp, prawns, nor nothing on room charges shall I pay :) 02:09:45 * quaid does an aikido deflection 02:09:46 <lcafiero> And, seriously, don't touch anything on the tray. 02:09:51 <quaid> seriously 02:10:41 <VileGent> what tray?? 02:10:49 <quaid> not sure I ever wrote that blog post 02:10:51 <lcafiero> In the room 02:10:52 <quaid> VileGent: in the hotel room 02:10:54 <quaid> there is a tray 02:10:55 <quaid> with goodies on it 02:10:57 <lcafiero> There's a tray that has stuff on it 02:10:57 <quaid> and a fridge 02:10:59 <quaid> full of goodies 02:11:00 <VileGent> oh ok 02:11:06 <quaid> if you open the fridge or move anything off the tray 02:11:09 <quaid> for more than a few seconds 02:11:15 <quaid> it automatically charges your bill 02:11:18 <lcafiero> I think one of the kids picked up something and they charged quaid, like, $30 02:11:23 <VileGent> i will take a pic of it when i enter the room 02:11:32 <quaid> ideally, the room crew checks, restocks, and removes mistake charges 02:11:40 <lcafiero> ideally 02:11:42 <quaid> I picked up a can of nuts and raisins 02:11:46 <quaid> to put behind a Fedora sign 02:11:48 <quaid> in the window 02:11:52 <quaid> to see if we could see it from the pool 02:12:13 <quaid> the hotel seemed to have a lot of extra surprise charges 02:12:17 <quaid> so i vow to read it all carefully now 02:12:39 <VileGent> and as i leave the room take another pic 02:12:56 <quaid> ok 02:13:00 <quaid> and that is all the topics 02:13:04 <quaid> save for 02:13:09 <quaid> # Recruiting 02:13:09 <quaid> * How can we attract more contributors? 02:13:09 <quaid> * Any presenters or other expo members who may be interested in talking to? 02:13:12 <quaid> # Budget happy? 02:13:13 <VileGent> if possible i would like to get a early checkin if possible 02:13:19 <vwbusguy> me getting the banners in the mail :-) 02:13:30 <quaid> lcafiero: how do we order those hotel rooms? 02:13:42 <VileGent> we will hassle jds2001 this week 02:13:45 <vwbusguy> quaid, u need the phone #? 02:14:05 <quaid> well, there is this other thing ... 02:14:09 <quaid> self-service is a good thing 02:14:15 <lcafiero> https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale8x/hotel-information 02:14:22 <quaid> and the credit card that pays for it doesn't have to be the one that holds the room :) 02:14:28 <lcafiero> Ask for the Linux Expo rate, which is the $115 02:14:52 * quaid just making sure he isn't taking on unneeded work 02:15:01 <quaid> also, some folks prefer to book their own stuff 02:15:12 <inode0> did anyone just check travelocity? 02:15:23 <lcafiero> I didn't. 02:15:31 <VileGent> its higher 02:15:54 <lcafiero> Besides, $115 is a pretty good rate for this hotel, imho 02:15:59 <vwbusguy> we get a special rate with SCaLE 02:16:06 <vwbusguy> it's less than Westin's website 02:16:26 <VileGent> better than travelocity 02:16:28 <quaid> it's likely to be the lower 02:16:47 <VileGent> or at least it was when i started looking to come 02:17:07 <lcafiero> Right, and SCaLE arranged for the special rate and I think the hotel is counting the number of people staying there for the expo 02:18:53 * inode0 just checked, you check the current travelocity rate :) 02:19:09 <inode0> you get - it is $115 too 02:19:31 <quaid> all I'd be looking for 02:19:38 <quaid> and it's good to book with the expo 02:19:52 <VileGent> 122 is the travelocity rate for westin LAX 02:20:06 <VileGent> not the one downtown 02:20:30 <vwbusguy> and booking for SCaLE helps for future SCaLE 02:20:44 <quaid> ok, do we have anything more for the in-meeting part? 02:20:55 <quaid> there are a few unanswered questions from the agenda (me!) 02:21:03 <lcafiero> Like . . . 02:21:24 <VileGent> so we need to call and make our own reservation correct? 02:21:25 <quaid> recruiting 02:21:30 <quaid> budget happy? 02:21:37 <lcafiero> I think the budget is OK. 02:21:37 <quaid> who is making reservation? 02:22:05 <lcafiero> let's take roll: VileGent -- make your own reservation? 02:22:08 <lcafiero> herlo? 02:22:11 <lcafiero> quaid? 02:22:20 <quaid> VileGent: my thinking is ... if we can do it, let's have folks be able to book their own room with own preferences, etc. 02:22:33 <VileGent> i can 02:23:35 <lcafiero> I think herlo's capable 02:23:56 * quaid adds some stuff to the collective link mind about last year's event 02:23:59 <quaid> #link http://iquaid.org/2009/02/23/its-more-than-a-passing-fad-the-bad/ 02:24:08 <quaid> #link http://iquaid.org/2009/02/21/its-more-than-a-passing-fad-the-good/ 02:24:27 <VileGent> but do i need to do it for 4 nights and not 3? 02:24:29 <quaid> I never wrote the ugly because ... 02:24:37 <quaid> well I didn't want to really diss people :) 02:24:47 <quaid> VileGent: sorry, when are you arriving? 02:24:56 <VileGent> thursday 02:25:06 <quaid> ok, so Thu + Fri + Sat = 3 02:25:10 <VileGent> leaving sat 02:25:12 <quaid> but I see your dilemma if you aren't there to close the room 02:25:23 <VileGent> yes 02:25:43 <quaid> ok, that means the sanest thing to do 02:25:46 <quaid> is for me to book it 02:25:50 <quaid> and if I'm book to 2/3 02:25:53 <quaid> I might as well do all 3 02:26:17 * quaid missing anything? 02:26:21 <VileGent> what time are you planning to get there thursday 02:26:45 <quaid> good question 02:26:46 <VileGent> actually everyone besides me and herlo at this point 02:27:02 <lcafiero> If we leave 8ish, quaid, maybe 4ish? 02:27:02 <quaid> plan? 5 o 6 02:27:11 <lcafiero> OK 02:27:17 <VileGent> pm 02:27:40 <quaid> VileGent: they should only require a card at checkin for incidentals added after booking 02:27:51 <vwbusguy> I have a class in Pasadena Thursday evening 02:27:54 <quaid> so if you are willing to surrender plastic for that, i can book it, you can get in the room early 02:27:55 <VileGent> ? 02:27:55 <vwbusguy> I can see about getting out of it 02:28:07 <quaid> vwbusguy: or you can come down after it's done and stay the night? 02:28:15 <vwbusguy> yeah, I could 02:28:16 <quaid> save the gas and be all in the circle all the time :) 02:28:28 <vwbusguy> it gets out ~8:20 but Pasadena isn't too far 02:28:34 * quaid has done the back-forth, mainly for kids/wife reasons, and now just brings the kids with him :) 02:28:56 <quaid> VileGent: well, if I'm not there, I believe you can check in anyway 02:29:00 * quaid can check on this when booking 02:29:05 <quaid> but they require a card on check in 02:29:13 <quaid> in case you eat the nuts or drink a Fanta 02:29:46 <quaid> I'm presuming 5ish is after you are arriving, and you said above you wanted an early checkin 02:29:52 <VileGent> well i can do that for my room when i get there 02:29:59 <quaid> ok, then that covers that 02:30:15 <VileGent> i arrive a 11AM 02:30:15 <quaid> #action quaid to book all 3 hotel rooms, check that people can check-in independently with their own card 02:30:22 <quaid> oh! 02:30:27 <quaid> I just realized, herlo isn't there until Friday 02:30:44 <VileGent> till your card gets there :) 02:30:51 <quaid> so it's ((2 * 3) + 1) * $115 02:31:04 <quaid> sorry 02:31:13 <quaid> so it's ((2 * 3) + (2*2) + 1) * $115 02:31:19 <quaid> sorry! 02:31:21 * quaid is dumb 02:31:22 <quaid> anyway 02:31:30 <quaid> I know what to do now 02:31:33 <inode0> huh? 02:31:34 <lcafiero> Well, don't let me near that equation 02:31:35 <VileGent> who is the second for 2 nites 02:31:42 <quaid> herlo 02:31:42 <lcafiero> It should come out to about what we have budgeted 02:31:53 <VileGent> who was the first 02:31:58 <quaid> me 02:32:10 <quaid> this is big budget, not ambassadors portion 02:32:20 <VileGent> you not going be there satuday nite? 02:32:29 <quaid> ambassador portion is ... (1*3) + (1*2) 02:32:34 <quaid> herlo arrives Friday 02:32:44 <VileGent> yes 02:33:03 <vwbusguy> if it would help, I can also arrive Friday morning 02:33:03 <VileGent> 2 x3 + 1 02:33:26 <quaid> 2 herlos + 3 vilegents == $Ambassadors_budget 02:33:32 <VileGent> vwbusguy, doesnt matter since i am there thursday 02:33:38 <quaid> $Ambassadors_budget + 3 quaids == total spend 02:34:06 <vwbusguy> Is Paul coming? 02:34:09 <quaid> any calls against that figure? 02:34:22 <quaid> I have not heard that paul is coming 02:34:30 <lcafiero> No, I don't believe he is. 02:34:35 <vwbusguy> k 02:34:41 <quaid> poor guy travels too much :) 02:34:44 <VileGent> ok i thought you were counted in the ambassor budget 02:34:45 <vwbusguy> I heard a rumor a long, long time ago and hadn't heard anything since 02:34:56 <lcafiero> And after quaid beat him out for the keynote . . . :-) 02:35:00 <quaid> VileGent: I am not, to be clear 02:35:01 <vwbusguy> lol 02:35:04 <VileGent> ok 02:35:17 <VileGent> 7 @115 then 02:35:35 <lcafiero> actually, I asked Paul to come and asked if he was interested in submitting a keynote 02:35:36 <quaid> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SCaLE_8x_Event#Budget 02:35:42 <quaid> that shows the breakdown 02:35:42 <VileGent> which brings us under budget 02:35:49 <lcafiero> that was a long time ago, so that's where you might have heard that. 02:35:53 <quaid> VileGent: 8 @$115 02:35:55 <vwbusguy> quaid, can u make sure if you re-post this meeting to sanitize it to remove the URL to the pdf I posted above? 02:36:14 <quaid> vwbusguy: I don't think it's easy 02:36:18 * vwbusguy seond guesses himself for posting that link here 02:36:18 * inode0 humbly suggests leaving the rooms to quaid to sort out :) 02:36:21 <quaid> vwbusguy: you are best to just (re)move it 02:36:39 <vwbusguy> quaid, that I cannot do 02:36:40 <quaid> vwbusguy: I was going to suggest that anyway :) 02:36:44 <quaid> oh 02:36:49 <quaid> dropbox is forevah? 02:37:02 <quaid> zodbot autologs 02:37:05 <vwbusguy> not my dropbox :-) 02:37:08 <quaid> ah 02:37:14 <vwbusguy> that's the link that was sent me 02:37:19 <quaid> word 02:37:23 <inode0> jds2001 can go clean it 02:37:35 <quaid> I was going to say, yes, someone can 02:37:42 <quaid> we'll ask jds2001 before we post the URL 02:37:58 <VileGent> ambassadors 5 +quaid 3 =8 yes 02:38:17 <quaid> ok, then! 02:38:25 <quaid> I call this a long but successful online meeting 02:38:49 <vwbusguy> #agreed 02:39:00 <quaid> ok then :) 02:39:09 <quaid> anything else before I close it? 02:39:17 <VileGent> so budget wise the ambassadors part we are under budget 02:39:22 <quaid> good 02:39:31 <quaid> is that the end or start of the Q? 02:39:38 <lcafiero> +1 02:40:19 <VileGent> i am done 02:40:41 <quaid> I mean, is Feb 22 the end of the Ambassadors quarter? 02:40:49 <vwbusguy> VileGent, we're never under-budget, because we haven't counted our beer fund 02:40:54 <quaid> if there is money there that needs spending 02:40:56 <quaid> exactly 02:41:05 <quaid> we have Fri and Sat nights to buy stuff :) 02:41:20 <lcafiero> heh 02:41:28 <quaid> ok 02:41:29 <vwbusguy> which reminds me 02:41:31 <vwbusguy> budget question 02:41:36 <vwbusguy> while we're here 02:41:47 <VileGent> vwbusguy, you are forgetting something 02:41:55 <VileGent> quaid, yes it is 02:42:00 <vwbusguy> parking is $14/day, quaid do you think that would also be duly covered? 02:42:05 <VileGent> i dont drink beer 02:42:20 <vwbusguy> VileGent, more for me! :-) 02:42:26 <quaid> we should cover parking for the team, yeah 02:42:31 <vwbusguy> VileGent, maybe get you some MD20/20 02:42:55 <quaid> if we're going to leave multiple cars for days. we can look in to near-by better deals 02:43:00 <quaid> the hotel has plenty of space :) 02:43:08 <VileGent> vwbusguy, we have cut the budget by 3 nites so we can cover parking and proable some gas 02:43:19 <vwbusguy> quaid, $14/day is about as good as it gets for LAX tbh 02:43:27 <vwbusguy> quaid, any less and you'll deal with security issues 02:43:50 <quaid> word up 02:43:59 <quaid> that's not much to pay for convenience too 02:44:11 * vwbusguy never parks at or near LAX 02:44:12 <quaid> as you leave, we'll do that payup together 02:44:21 <quaid> I'll leave with our crew after closing on Sunday 02:44:28 <quaid> we're not "rushing" 02:45:08 <quaid> any other budget stuff? 02:46:11 <quaid> vwbusguy: I got nb in #fedora-admin ready to remove the URL ... 02:46:23 <quaid> caveat - it's not perfect, others here are likely logging, but it removes it 02:46:33 <quaid> from the regularly crawled *fedoraproject.org 02:46:37 <vwbusguy> quaid, do it :-) 02:46:41 <quaid> will do 02:46:51 <quaid> ok ... countdown ... 02:46:52 <quaid> 5 02:46:54 <quaid> 4 02:46:54 <quaid> 3 02:46:56 <quaid> 2 02:46:59 <quaid> 1 02:47:01 <quaid> #endmeeting